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Unread 04-05-2012, 10:14 PM   #3616
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Anyways. Back to MY Jeep. I've been having some weird noise when accelerating hard for a brief second. I was messing around the other day and heard it again. Wonder what the heck it was, figuring it was the transmission about to explode. Since I really didn't want to accept that answer. I went looking around and found this...



That would be the mechanical fan hitting the metal backing of the e-fan.

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Unread 04-05-2012, 11:19 PM   #3617
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About to hit BUY NOW Jeep!!!

KBB valued at 17,200!
Don't do it man! You already have a blue one!
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Unread 04-06-2012, 04:44 AM   #3618
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Don't do it man! You already have a blue one!
But... But... V8

Go ahead Michael.. Press the button... DO IT bahaha if I had 15 grand layin around man.
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Unread 04-06-2012, 08:02 PM   #3619
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Don't do it man! You already have a blue one!
I like the blue, even though it does show scratches! :P

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But... But... V8

Go ahead Michael.. Press the button... DO IT bahaha if I had 15 grand layin around man.
Yeah let me just pull that 15-16 thousand out of my other off-shore account
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Unread 04-06-2012, 08:04 PM   #3620
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Went shopping for the Jeep.
Bought some washer to compress the rear shocks.
Some wire loom for the trans cooler lines
zip-ties
wire hangers
bucket
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scratch-x 2.0
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Unread 04-06-2012, 10:43 PM   #3621
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Some wire loom for the trans cooler lines
For a specific area (where it is rubbing/chafing?) Or just "for good measure"?

If you need to protect a single area, wrapping it in friction tape is a much better idea. Another idea is to take the next size up hose, slit it lengthwise, and install over the tube you are protecting. Zip tie it in place.

I hate wire loom. On a hose like that I'd imagine it doing more harm than good.
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Unread 04-06-2012, 10:47 PM   #3622
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For a specific area (where it is rubbing/chafing?) Or just "for good measure"?

If you need to protect a single area, wrapping it in friction tape is a much better idea. Another idea is to take the next size up hose, slit it lengthwise, and install over the tube you are protecting. Zip tie it in place.

I hate wire loom. On a hose like that I'd imagine it doing more harm than good.
Um, I just bought it because I saw it. I routed them pretty well to where there isn't any rubbing. I thought about using it as just a good measure type deal.

What is this friction tape? Just another coating to wrap the rubber hose in?
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Unread 04-07-2012, 02:31 AM   #3623
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guilty as charged I suggested wire loom. Never had any problems with it and it was just to avoid sharp edges and metal on rubber contact. I also wrapped densely in electrical tape afterwards myself. Never had any problems before the tranny cooler hose is pretty thick and strong it just needs protection from sharp abrasion
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Unread 04-07-2012, 08:12 PM   #3624
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guilty as charged I suggested wire loom. Never had any problems with it and it was just to avoid sharp edges and metal on rubber contact. I also wrapped densely in electrical tape afterwards myself. Never had any problems before the tranny cooler hose is pretty thick and strong it just needs protection from sharp abrasion
LAWL, I have not worked on MY Jeep today. I was helping a friend out all day today, we made his truck SHINE! Tomorrow I am getting to the Jeep. I really dont have any areas where it is rubbing. It may have just been an impulse buy.
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Unread 04-07-2012, 11:01 PM   #3625
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Friction tape is a cloth-based electrical tape with a gummy adhesive. It's what gets used by OEMs to wrap original wiring harnesses. Much more durable than electrical tape. It's similar to the grip tape you use on tennis rackets, hockey sticks, etc. I used some in a few places on my winch wiring harness for additional abrasion resistance (2 ga doesn't make sharp curves real well). Where it touches on the license plate (when the winch is mounted) has actually worn away the license plate, not the tape.

You can use it if you want to, but I've never seen an OEM use additional protection around flexible lines like that. Especially when you consider that your lines are fiber-reinforced pressure-rated hoses. Anything that is sharp enough to cut or pinch your trans cooler lines is just going to cut right through the wire loom (which is substantially weaker than the cooler lines).

So there's my thoughts on it.
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Unread 04-07-2012, 11:31 PM   #3626
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Thanks man for explaining! Sounds like some tough stuff. I think I will return it, I don't need it and you are right. Because the lines are braided and aren't even really rubbing on anything.

I do plan on fixing the shocks tomorrow by adding some washer to get hopefully get them to stop clunking around.
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Unread 04-08-2012, 12:27 PM   #3627
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Anyways. Back to MY Jeep. I've been having some weird noise when accelerating hard for a brief second. I was messing around the other day and heard it again. Wonder what the heck it was, figuring it was the transmission about to explode. Since I really didn't want to accept that answer. I went looking around and found this...



That would be the mechanical fan hitting the metal backing of the e-fan.
Im confused as to why you have an e-fan AND mechanical fan?
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Unread 04-08-2012, 01:16 PM   #3628
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About to hit BUY NOW Jeep!!!

KBB valued at 17,200!
I wouldn't even waste my time or money.
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Unread 04-08-2012, 01:32 PM   #3629
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Im confused as to why you have an e-fan AND mechanical fan?
The 4.0s with towing package had an E-fan as well as a supplemental mechanical fan. The bigger concern is "why is it hitting?" My money's on motor mounts.
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Unread 04-08-2012, 02:09 PM   #3630
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Im confused as to why you have an e-fan AND mechanical fan?
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The 4.0s with towing package had an E-fan as well as a supplemental mechanical fan. The bigger concern is "why is it hitting?" My money's on motor mounts.
Beat me to it, exactly. Both came with the tow package

Bingo, my mechanic took a look at them and they were "cracking" but not in dire need of replacement at the time (over spring break was short on time). I am going to have the two engine mounts, and trans mount replaced this summer. It will only hit if I brake stand or floor it from a stop.... hehe
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