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Pros and cons to Line X exterior paint job?

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#1 ·
Thinking about doing this and just want to hear some "cons." I pretty much know the "pros", but i want to know the cons from people who have done this or do this for a living.

Ive heard that it adds a **** load of weight, and ive heard that it doesnt. Does anyone know for sure?

if it does add a considerable amount of weight, does anyone notice a large drop in MPG?

How thick is it sprayed on? Does it make things (bumpers, roof racks, aftermarket accessories, etc) not fit like they would if you just had paint?

If i dent the car, will the liner dent with the metal, or will it crack and peel off? would removing a dent, that would otherwise be easy with paint, be harder to line x?

Does anyone have any pictures of Jeep XJ (or any vehicle really) with a different color than black? Like red, deep amethyst (deep, deep purple), or a nice green color?
 
#3 ·
Honestly I plan on one day spraying my entire jeep with the tintable raptor liner. I had my jeep repainted two years ago and its scratched and chipped already.
 
#4 ·
I have an XJ 2 blocks from my home that is painted top to bottom in black. He's got the roof rack and the whole 9 yds. I think it looks cool, but he said it get real hot in the summer. Since we're in Montana, he also mentioned it makes it hard to warm up in the cab when its cold 3/4 of the yr. Also saw a CJ w/ red Rhino rockers... it looks like a 7 yr old did a lumpy paint job.
 
#7 ·
Pros: Rough surface induces turbulence, lowering the coefficient of drag, increasing gas mileage (think: golf ball). (Totally made that up).
Cons: Rough surface prevents scantly clad hotties from performing impromptu sexy car wash shenanigans. <---- Major con.

In reality, I too have big plans of beadlining my whole XJ. Do it and post plenty of pics.
 
#8 ·
Damn... I have really grown accustomed to walking back from the store only to find 5-8 "scantly clad hotties" washing my car; I may have to re-think this;). Oh wait! maybe these hotties, that I dont want to give up seeing, will think thats its a regular car when they start to wash it, but realize that its a ***** to clean a couple minutes through (gotta love blondes.) They'll feel bad that they washed a small portion of my car clean, so they will continue to scrub they hell out of it for hours-on-end until its done...while I watch :thumbsup:
 
#9 ·
I herculined my truck. It's ****ing awesome. It looks like a furry ****, but it is awesome. Totally indestructible, and it will draw blood if you're not careful.
 
#13 ·
Yea, ill be paying a professional to do it. I want my car to look nice, but i just cant justify paying 3-5k for a paint job when i can get line-x that, imho, looks really cool. I have these little basterds in my condo complex and i know one day theyre doing to get to close to my Jeeo and scratch it. I have a bright future; no need to ruin it with jail time for murder 1
 
#15 ·
I can't imagine it adding enough weight to notice. If you think you notice the weight, its probably placebo.

I'm also in the crowd that wonders why anyone would do this. I've seen it done in person, and it can turn out like crap. My advice is to buy a proven, quality product and do your part with the prep work.

The issue I have with it is, if you don't like it, good luck getting it off. If it ever rusts underneath it(your from MI, it will eventually), it will make it a huge PITA to fix it. You also say your jeep has already been painted, and its chipping and scratching easily? Is this because the quality of the paint job is not very good, or is it from trails and offroading? If the paint isn't very good, you'd want to remove as much of it as possible before apply something over top of it i'd imagine.
 
#16 ·
I can't imagine it adding enough weight to notice. If you think you notice the weight, its probably placebo.

I'm also in the crowd that wonders why anyone would do this. I've seen it done in person, and it can turn out like crap. My advice is to buy a proven, quality product and do your part with the prep work.

The issue I have with it is, if you don't like it, good luck getting it off. If it ever rusts underneath it(your from MI, it will eventually), it will make it a huge PITA to fix it. You also say your jeep has already been painted, and its chipping and scratching easily? Is this because the quality of the paint job is not very good, or is it from trails and offroading? If the paint isn't very good, you'd want to remove as much of it as possible before apply something over top of it i'd imagine.
I want to get this dont because its cheaper than a regular paint job. I also think it looks better. I am taking it to a professional so they will do it right prep work. Line-x makes an air tight seal (air tight=water tight) so there will be no rusting under the lining unless it comes form the other side, and im getting the rist taken care of before i do this.
They Jeep was painted 12 years ago when it was first made. as far as i know, it was not repainted. the guy took pretty good care of the engine, but **** care of the body. I have seen prep pictures of the line-x process, and they scuff it up pretty badly so the lining has something to grip on.
 
#19 ·
Doesn't matter. You're arguing the wrong point. It can rust from the other side. If you miss any rust in the prep work, and go over top of it, it may also continue to rust. Some areas of the uni-body rust from the inside out due to those areas no being water-tight combined with salt. Just saying if your rockers rust out, or the bottom of your door being to rust after the lining, it won't be easy to remove that stuff.

This is just my opinion, it may be nothing to worry about if your jeep is rust free and you keep it washed in the winter. You may not care the jeep might be towards the end of its DD life.

Just my .02 of what to keep in mind when bedlining.
 
#21 ·
i think the whole vehicle would look ugly... i would do like rear fenders, and rocker panels but not the whole thing... :ew:
 
#24 ·
if your worried about the scratches on your paint, i would rather deal with them than the ugliness.
scratched paint> ugly black bumpy goop.
just sayin. I do love the stuff and the idea but eh... idk
rhino liner is better than line-x. Line-x people don't sand, and it can chip off, i know this because of 2 trucks i've had and the rhino liner held up WAY better. Line-x uses kevlar.
 
#25 ·
scratched paint> ugly black bumpy goop.
this. It sounds like a cool idea but in reality, and my own opinion, it's not worth the hassle. Do what you want man, but I really think you'll regret it. Just trying to save you the hassle because once its on there, its there to stay unless you own a jackhammer and have the patience of a monk.
 
#26 ·
I know it has risks. I know what it looks like. Not be sound rude, but I didnt post this question with the hope people would tell me its a bad idea and that i shouldnt do it. I asked questions that i already tried, and failed, to find, so I needed someone to chime in on them.

I asked several questions, and, apart from a few, all I got were people telling me thats its ugly and that i shouldnt do it. I understand that i asked peoples opinions on cons to a bedliner paint job, but I refuse to think that you thought I wanted to hear how you dont like the way it looks. Thats like me asking, "Hey guys, I'm thinking of putting lift kit on my jeep. Does it reduce my mpg?" and then everyone is telling me thats they dont like the way it looks and its ugly; its a matter of personal preference, and I dont care if you dont like the way it looks (excuse me again.) I just want someone to chime in on the questions i asked so I can make a more educated decision.
 
#28 ·
Ok, I'll chime in and answer your questions. We're just expressing our opinions and letting you know the facts based on our own experiences. Most people regret it, all I'm saying. Don't get mad when people are only looking out for the greater good of you and your rig. We've all made decisions with our jeeps that we've regretted. We're here to prevent that so you can make a more educated decision.

if it does add a considerable amount of weight, does anyone notice a large drop in MPG?
I can't imagine it making a difference at all. Just think of how much a gallon of that stuff weighs in the can...not much.

How thick is it sprayed on? Does it make things (bumpers, roof racks, aftermarket accessories, etc) not fit like they would if you just had paint?
Depending on the brand and how it's sprayed/rolled on, usually anywhere from an 1/8th to 1/4 inch.

If i dent the car, will the liner dent with the metal, or will it crack and peel off? would removing a dent, that would otherwise be easy with paint, be harder to line x?
Some liners have a rubbery consistency and some are hard like a shell. If you dent your rig with the hard stuff, it'll definitely crack. The rubbery stuff can eventually age with the weather and sometimes peels.

Does anyone have any pictures of Jeep XJ (or any vehicle really) with a different color than black? Like red, deep amethyst (deep, deep purple), or a nice green color?
No
 
#31 ·
I dont know about covering up the paint, but stripping it down as much as possible and then lining it would be kinda cool. What kind of Jeep do you have? I dont think it would look good with a XJ. If you have a hard-top wrangler, I have seen a couple with jus the top lined and it looks pretty cool.
 
#32 ·
what i've picked up from this page

Pros: protects against scratches and weathering.

cons: heavy, ugly, no turning back, WONT protect from dents, can chip, crack, bumpers/accessories may not fit on right and again, ugly.


i usually don't actually post how much i wouldn't want to do this so many times but i just feel like you'll be so disappointed....
 
#34 ·
what i've picked up from this page

Pros: protects against scratches and weathering.

cons: heavy, ugly, no turning back, WONT protect from dents, can chip, crack, bumpers/accessories may not fit on right and again, ugly.

i usually don't actually post how much i wouldn't want to do this so many times but i just feel like you'll be so disappointed....
thanks for the unwanted input
 
#35 ·
It fades. My dad had his truck bed originally sprayed in 2004. He had to replace the tailgate last year and got that resprayed. The original stuff is veeeerrryyy faded and dull compared to the shiny, deep black, newer coating. Maybe they have UV coatings now or whatever, not sure.
 
#37 ·
I think you will hate it in time and we will say I told you so, but since I dont like being a total dbag, i will at least post up something of use. Heres what google turned up:

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In an honest unbiased opinion, i think it would be great on a trail only ride, but otherwise it seems like an easy way out of a tired paintjob. I am addicted to bedliner, but anything above the rockers bodyline is pushing it. Complete matter of opinion, of course. If i were looking for a cheap paintjob solution, id pull an EricsXJ move and spray some desert tan on. Looks good and you dont have a mess on your hands if you dont like it.
 
#38 ·
I would do a rustoleum paint job. Stuff holds up really good when thinned, if you scratch it it will buff out easily, its cheap, and its oil based so it will help protect from rust. Although it is a long tedious process, if you stick too it you can have a really good looking paint job for around $100.
 
#42 ·
since i just had the bed in my ram 1500 done, i think it will look fine when new, if done right, but i do think it will become faded over time. i would think you would want to research different products, i am not big on linex, appears to harden, crack and chip more so than the rhino beds i have seen. may also want to search for a bed liner product that is smooth and not the "sandpaper" non skid finish, easier to keep looking clean and easier on the skin. don't know if this type of product exists. just guessing, but i would think a standard thickness will add a fair amount of weight, but i am guessing at that. one neg. i can think of, is how much will it raise the temp of the engine compartment? although some hood vents may correct this. good luck and post pics if you go through with this.
 
#43 ·
I've done it and I'd do it again, but I wouldn't if you don't want a flat color look over time. Personally I love a flat black vehicle so it's no big deal to me. It's not something you see all that often, it'd hard to scratch and if it does it adheres to itself so repairs are very easy, makes it easier to keep your Jeep clean, ect.

All the downsides are really just personal issues such as looks, though it will get a little tacky in the summer or when it's hot out which does suck during pollen season. While it does fade the color can be restored to it. I also don't see any reason you couldn't spray a clear coat over top of it. Paint will fade just as fast without a good clear coat.

Doing the entire exterior won't take more than 2 gallons and it's not much weight spread over the vehicle, not enough that you'd ever notice it. If you go that route I'd suggest spraying or rolling it on yourself, you're going to pay an arm and a leg to have it sprayed professionally. Also Line-X sucks. If you're going to have it pro sprayed get it rhino lined, if you're doing it yourself use Herculiner or Monstaliner. Monstaliner has a JF rep and it's a bit more expensive than Herc, but it can be dyed a bunch of different colors. I know of at least one CJ that was done in a bright orange that looks awesome.

If you do it yourself make damn sure you don't get it on your skin, or allow it to harden anyway. It wipes off pretty easily/quickly if you get it immediately, but if it dries at all it's gonna take days if not weeks to get it off your skin. Also make damn sure not to get any one your "hootus." :rofl: