Talked to the shop that will be putting on my lift next week and they said they had an 02 tj that had the same lift as what I am getting put on and they put it on the RTI ramp and then after that tried out Rusty's control arms and noticed a HUGE gain of flex on the ramp? I like the looks of Rusty's arms, but not sure if it would be worth it to chance control arms out, and pluss they never told me which UCA's or LCA'S it was...or even both. What do ya'll think about this?
Rusty's Control Arms vs. RE Control Arms?
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Talked to the shop that will be putting on my lift next week and they said they had an 02 tj that had the same lift as what I am getting put on and they put it on the RTI ramp and then after that tried out Rusty's control arms and noticed a HUGE gain of flex on the ramp? I like the looks of Rusty's arms, but not sure if it would be worth it to chance control arms out, and pluss they never told me which UCA's or LCA'S it was...or even both. What do ya'll think about this?
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i think how fast they wear out is directly related to how steep of an angle (i.e. how much lift) you are running them at, and how much you grease them. My SF arms never wore out. After 3 years I pulled the out and sold them and they looked fine.
now, in the last 5 years with the long arms, i still haven't had an issue with a joint wearing out.
now, in the last 5 years with the long arms, i still haven't had an issue with a joint wearing out.
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I noticed the Rusty's LCA's have a curve to them? Is that better than what the RE's do as their's are straight lined?
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rusty's are bent to help alleviate the control arm angle, if you look at RE's again they are not straight the flex bushing is not centered on the arm. I assume they do that for the same reason, i could be wrong though.
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I did notice that the bushing seems to be lower than the centerline on the control arm, but wondered why Rusty's were angled/bent at the middle on the LCA's? Is it for more clearance or what?
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BarneyJEEP. Rusty's arms are bent to help with clearance.
The RE arms do not have the bushing centered with the arm, this is for added clearance on the coil bucket, It allows you to articulate more (more droop before it hits the coil bucket)
NEITHER helps alleviate the control arm angle problem. IT IS THE MOUNTING POINTS THAT MATTER. a control arm shaped like a curly straw will be the same as a straight control arm. (apart from the obvious clearance issues and waste of a good straw =P)
Luke.
The RE arms do not have the bushing centered with the arm, this is for added clearance on the coil bucket, It allows you to articulate more (more droop before it hits the coil bucket)
NEITHER helps alleviate the control arm angle problem. IT IS THE MOUNTING POINTS THAT MATTER. a control arm shaped like a curly straw will be the same as a straight control arm. (apart from the obvious clearance issues and waste of a good straw =P)
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So will the arms really matter then when it comes to articulation? If I get more with the Rusty's then I'll swap the RE's for the Rusty's LCA's and get adjustable ones...
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Correct, the arms are bent for clearance, as mentioned it is the mounting points that determine the control arm angles.
If you got the Rustys arms with the forged flex ends, they would outflex arms with standard bushing ends. IMO Rustys arms are excellent bang for the buck. I just got my set of Rustys LCAs with flex ends and was already running them for rear UCAs. Good product for a good price.
http://rustysoffroad.com/mm5/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=RC-CA411-UV&Category_Code=ARMS
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I'd rather have a Clayton short arm.
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Well I might see if the shop can order some and install them at the same time...what should I do with the RE LCA's?
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Will the Rusty's joints give a stiffer ride?
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http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=671895
An excellent thread I started. Great joint info in there. To sum it up, Currie is the only company that uses a true Johnny Joint. Everyone else uses other spherical joints that don't last as long and provide less comfort. Therefore, I'm going with Currie.
An excellent thread I started. Great joint info in there. To sum it up, Currie is the only company that uses a true Johnny Joint. Everyone else uses other spherical joints that don't last as long and provide less comfort. Therefore, I'm going with Currie.
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Thanks for the link!
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Clayton uses Currie JJ's.
You know Currie invented them, don't you?
You know Currie invented them, don't you?
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So, you don't see how the angle of the control arm would cause more or less stress on the joints? a steeper control arm angle results in more force being transfered directly through the arm to the bushings. if a control arm is parallel to the ground it moves up and down along it's arc more easily and less force is transfered through the bushings to the frame. if you've got an ungodly amount of lift with a short arm your bushings will be toast.
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Anywhere sell these for cheaper than $378 for all for LCA's that are adjustable?
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