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#1 ·
I just picked up 4 white 15x7 wagon wheels and 4 oem nos center caps today. What is the factory paint code and should these have a pinstripe for 84? I was super excited when the gentleman threw in the nos center caps.

Also, is there a difference between the white and chrome wheels besides the obvious?


Now I wish I could find one more wheel.
 
#5 ·
Yeah, I'm a morning guy with coffee in hand!

Don't know the paint code or if I did, have forgotten. I have 9 white 15x7 rims, 5 on the Jeep and 4 for spares. One of the spares I got off of Craigslist in pristine condition that was on a Jeep, garaged kept and was the spare which was covered all its life. The white matches the white I powder coated with, Gloss white from Eastwood.com.

Pinstripe is gloss black and about a 1/4" wide on 1983-86 CJ's. Previous years with white wagon wheels, narrow axles and 15x8 wheels, had a red pinstripe as far as I know.



 
#6 ·
For paint, Olympic White might be the closest match.
Originals were not super glossy, but had some gloss to them.

When I did a bunch of sets and powder coated them, we went with a semi-gloss, they came out very nice.

The stripes are correct in the desrcription, black 1/4", but not sure on the years exactly, I have some 15x8's originals that have a black stripe, but also some that have red, so it depends... 15x7's I have only ever seen with a black stripe aside from specialty ones like spring edition wheels I believe had an orange/red stripe.

For contrast, a red stripe, but this was a non-drilled set of 1978 rims.

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cb
 
#8 ·
Painted.

Powder coating really had not become popular at the manufacturing level until just maybe 10 years back. Besides, AMC would never had allowed the extra cost involved of the heating that is needed for curing the powders.
 
#11 ·
They have "spokes" like a wagon wheel.

The only Off-White color I know for Jeep wheels were the steelies. They were the standard wheel and next for upgrade were the wagon wheels followed by the chrome version of the wagon wheel.
 
#15 · (Edited)
Here is a shot of my wheels. I am confident that they are original cj7 1980 parts.

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That shot pictured is one of a set of axles with 5 bolt hubs, thus allowing the center cap to be used.

The other shot of the 1980 shows no holes for center caps and a set of larger rear brakes, so I would think the fronts would also be 6 bolts, which would look like the shot of what I showed above.

Is it possible different axles were swapped (or at least the outers) onto your Jeep since it was new?

cb
 
#16 ·
Also, the easiest way to find out what year it is (rims at least) is to take them off and look at the date code on the inside of the rim.

cb
 
#17 ·
Yep, date code on the inside and made in CANADA.

I always thought that the wagon wheels that came with the center chrome caps weren't available until 1982 when axles width was increased by 4 inches and front hubs became 5 bolt instead of six. But I know the CJ-5 still used the narrow axle till end of production in 1983 and center caps appeared in 1981. So, would that mean there's a two year run of 15x8 wagon wheels with black stripe and chrome center caps that were for the CJ-5 and not the CJ-7's? All CJ-7's from 1982 to 1986 had wide axles and 15x7 wagon wheels (option) with chrome center caps and black pinstripe.

1977-1979 CJ's had 15x8 wheels and red pinstripe. Unless you optioned for the Golden Eagle with its gold wheels and black pinstripe. 1980 CJ's had 15x8 wheels with black pinstripe and no holes for center caps. Center caps didn't appear until 1981 and would mean another odd year for the wagon wheel being 15x8, black pinstripe and holes for the center cap.

Now I'm confused.
 
#21 ·
I always thought that the wagon wheels that came with the center chrome caps weren't available until 1982 when axles width was increased by 4 inches and front hubs became 5 bolt instead of six. But I know the CJ-5 still used the narrow axle till end of production in 1983 and center caps appeared in 1981. So, would that mean there's a two year run of 15x8 wagon wheels with black stripe and chrome center caps that were for the CJ-5 and not the CJ-7's? All CJ-7's from 1982 to 1986 had wide axles and 15x7 wagon wheels (option) with chrome center caps and black pinstripe.
So I guess the real question here is did the 82 and 83 CJ5 come with the standard (for those years) 15x7 wheels? I haven't had enough exposure to stock CJ5s of those years to say for sure so maybe someone with an all stock one can add to this.

1977-1979 CJ's had 15x8 wheels and red pinstripe. Unless you optioned for the Golden Eagle with its gold wheels and black pinstripe. 1980 CJ's had 15x8 wheels with black pinstripe and no holes for center caps. Center caps didn't appear until 1981 and would mean another odd year for the wagon wheel being 15x8, black pinstripe and holes for the center cap.

Now I'm confused.
I can confirm this as I have mad stacks of CJ rims (wheels) , like 60 or 70 of them. I recently sold a set of 5 1981 15x8 with center caps holes. To bad the chrome was rusted up or I would have kept them.

Side note: golden eagle wheels were just like the regular 15x8 as far as backspacing. Just the gold paint and black stripe. The Limited wheels however do have a different backspacing than the other 15x7 wheels of that time for the chrome rings and their mounting depth. It's only slight but you can see it on the face of the wheel ( and I measured them at one point)
 
#30 ·
Powder coated, after he had them blasted.

Pretty much the ultimate OEM CJ wheel.....:drool:
 
#27 ·
When I bought my 1985 CJ-7 back in 1992, it came with some crappy chrome aftermarket rims. I liked the
look of the white wagon wheels better and eventually found a set of white wagon wheels for my Jeep.

They were not in the best of shape, and they needed to be refinished. I sanded them down, primed
them and painted them with plain old Rustoleum Gloss White paint in the spray cans.

I ended up using about 4 cans of the white paint to refinish both the inside and outside of all 4 rims.

I also put the black stripe back on by putting the rims on a stool I had that could spin around, and used
a small brush dipped in Rustoleum black paint to reapply the stripes.

With the rims being white, I don't know anyone who could tell they are not the exact factory white color.
And really, who cares? Because I used the standard Rustoleum colors, I can get a perfect match anytime I
need to touch them up if they get scratched or whatever.

And the best part is it is cheap, easy to do, and I can also touch up small spots using a brush and the white
Rustoleum that comes in the regular cans if I don't need to bust out a spray can.

This is a nice, cheap way to get your rims to look good if you don't want to spend big bucks on buying the
exact factory paint, or you can't afford to have them powder coated.

Jim
 
#29 ·
Here is a side view picture of my Jeep taken in 2004 after I put on a new 2.5 inch BDS suspension lift kit and with new shocks.

The wheels where painted in 1992 about 6 months after I got them and getting rid of the stupid chrome aftermarket ones.

The wagon wheels are a bit dirty and there are a few scrapes and scratches on them but they don't look too bad for a 12 year old paint job!

Jim
 

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#33 ·
Cost of wheels was included in the price. A decent set of 15x8 of 5 starts around 250 if you can find them. Center caps run 30 each for decent ones then comes the work. It is great you can do it for that price. Post up pics of the final product when completed

cb
Sent from the garage
 
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