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I don't wheel my Commander, but have found a shovel to be a good tool to have even on the street in Detroit winters.

Not so much for the Commander, but helping others out of snowbanks, etc. I have helped folks get unstuck and they're always appreciative - of course they never had a good reason as to why there's no shovel in their trunk :confused:.

I mounted a U.S. Army folding shovel on the tailgate. Not the best shovel for any conditions, but better than no shovel at all. Also it's an old friend and deserves my respect :thumbsup:.

I do need to get some black touch up paint and paint the machine screws and nuts black to match the mount. I added black zip ties as a backup safety retainer (barely visible). The only way the shovel comes loose in a collision is if the tailgate liner comes with it. (The zip ties weren't so much for the possibility of an accident, rather the possibility of the shovel tapping the hunny in the noggin' when loading groceries with the tail gate open :laugh:).

I don't carry an axe of any kind - never had a need for one on street use.
 

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So much for TREAD LIGHTLY. 'Nuff said. :mad:
I think I would have just driven around the tree.
Thus ignoring the ideals of Stay the Trail and Tread Lightly. I don't see any issue with cutting the tree with axes. Hopefully they stacked the pieces out of the way that they wouldn't cause any trouble for anyone.

I do carry a shovel but not an axe.
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going around is not an option

cutting the fallen tree out of our way and setting it neatly on the side of the trail is much better than going off trail and establishing your own bypass
 
Not to hi-jack, but this is the best thread for this question I asked months ago...maybe someone knows now:

I carry a full size axe for camp fires and splitting, a hatchet/pry bar/hammer, a small folding saw for branches (mainly to burn wood without the branches on the campfire and makes great kindling) and a folding army shovel.

IF I can find (someone PLEASE help!) a bracket that will carry an axe and shovel on the SAME side of my KargoMaster Safari rack and my Hi-Lift on the other, THEN I'll start carrying a full sized shovel.

Anyone know where to get a double, same sided bracket? Hopefully locking? I've researched the heck out of it (and I know they exist 'cause I've seen them on racks before), but can't find anything. :brickwall

Help? :confused:
Anyone? PM me if you know. Thanks!
 
I carry a military tri-fold, a collapsible snow shovel in the winter, an ax full size, a hatchet, and a hi-lift jack, plus about 100 other things that come in handy in jam.
 
Other than splitting kindling we have found no use for an ax when wheeling (not even once in more than 75 years a of combined trail experience, I asked over beers last weekend).
For downed trees we;
1. drive over them (they are on the trail, therefore; they are an obstacle to be climbed),
2. winch them out of the way,
3. whip out the chain saw and cut them up (then haul them back to camp for firewood).

Axes attract unsafe noobs and drunks; protect your friends, leave axes at home.

A Svensaw transports easier and cuts trees/branches greater than 7" in diameter, a pocket chainsaw also transport s easily and can cut trees 10" in diameter.

Enjoy!
 
I have encountered USFS and BLM rangers out on the trail and they always ask if i have the axe, shovel and 5 gal water. Cannot find the specific legal requirement, but its a good idea. i cannot begin to guess how many smouldering abandoned camp fires i come across. Hence the water. As for driving around the downed tree, that sort of reckless conduct is what gives wheelers a bad name and leads to more restrictions and closures. Sheesh, its not too hard to drag it off the trail, thus avoiding pioneering of new go-arounds. if you cannot clear the blockage, go home and come back when you are prepared. E-tools are good for next to nothing. A full sized spade is priceless is you are doing a lot of digging, killing a camp fire or making a cat hole. I've rarely used an axe and a hatchet is nice to make kindling for camp, but not much else. A medium craftsman chainsaw is a life saver and i never leave home w/o one in the spring or fall. Besides, it makes easy work for camp fire wood.

High lift makes the lock rack for their jacks, but i easily modified one to carry a shovel or axe. Get creative and you'll be happy with the full size shovel. Anything less is back back breaker and the small area shovel blade makes for 3x the effort compared with a standard spade. GEtting anal here, but i learned long go to keep the shovel spade clean and filed sharp. I even have a scabbard for the shovel blade.

i know, too much time on my hands... LOL
 
Other than splitting kindling we have found no use for an ax when wheeling (not even once in more than 75 years a of combined trail experience, I asked over beers last weekend).
For downed trees we;
1. drive over them (they are on the trail, therefore; they are an obstacle to be climbed),
2. winch them out of the way,
3. whip out the chain saw and cut them up (then haul them back to camp for firewood).

Axes attract unsafe noobs and drunks; protect your friends, leave axes at home.

A Svensaw transports easier and cuts trees/branches greater than 7" in diameter, a pocket chainsaw also transport s easily and can cut trees 10" in diameter.

Enjoy!
lol, so im guessing the "unsafe noobs and drunks" would never be attracted to your chain saw. :rolleyes:
 
I always carried a shovel and an axe in all my 4X4's and in my Jeep, I still carry a shovel and full size axe. It is installed in the back with a mount that I got from Misch. I use the shovel more than the axe but the axe does get used, from cutting firewood to clearing blown down trees from the trail. I do have a chain saw but I just don't have the room to carry it along with the associated can of gas and oil with me. Now if I was going out on some trail maintenance ride, I would carry it. As far as an axe being dangerous, like any tool, you need proper training to use one. I would be more scared of someone getting injured with a chain saw that had no training with that. But even a rake can be dangerous. :D
 
I always have a small shovel in my jeep but don't carry an axe. I have a chainsaw that I take out sometimes if i feel or know of any trees down on the trails. Using a small come-along, tow rope and a shovel all have gotten me out of some tricky spots.
 
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--And a properly sharpened double bit axe will always be faster cutting than any handsaw unless the diameter is > 24". A small, compact chainsaw like the old Stihl 015 works great in a Jeep
 
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