Make sure the lenses are not fogged up.

 

It's just the lenses. Most fogs on any car are for looks in my opinion. I have 3000k 65 watt halogens in mine (10 watts brighter than reg + more cutting force because yellow) and they only shine out about 15 feet max, but by then my hid projector headlights hit the ground and drown them out....

 

If you REALLY REALLY want good fogs, rigid industries just made a fog for their dually size light. It would be a custom install though

 

Yes, these style fogs put out horrible light no matter what bulb you try. Im eventually swapping them out totally for some fake ridig duallies as well.

 

The fake rigid dually will be a flood pattern, and you will blind people.

 

The factory lights are FOG lights. FOG lights shouldn't light up the road real good nor should they be bright the reflection off FOG would be blinding. If you want to light up the road real good, you need DRIVING lights. DRIVING lights beam the light much tighter then FOG lights making then seems brighter to light up the road better.

 

The factory lights are FOG lights. FOG lights shouldn't light up the road real good nor should they be bright the reflection off FOG would be blinding. If you want to light up the road real good, you need DRIVING lights. DRIVING lights beam the light much tighter then FOG lights making then seems brighter to light up the road better.

Driving beams are often illegal to use in road as their pattern shines into others eyes, much like having brights on. And having a bright fog light is not blinding. Nor will it ever be blinding is it has a proper cutoff. If it's blinding you, it's because its aimed at the fog, rain, dust, ect. In front of your eyes. This would also mean it didn't have a cutoff, making it not a fog. If your blinded by your fog lights, you bought flood lights.

 

Very true......that's why all my extra driving lights are only allowed to come on with my brights in the UK. And fog lights don't help as over here they are only legally allowed be used when it's actually foggy or visibility is severely reduced such as heavy snow (you can't use them on rain either as you blind people with the glare off the wet road!). So, over here at least, it's pretty difficult to get extra light on low beam......just have to fit hid (also difficult to do legally over here as you have to have head lamp wash or wipe) or the best quality bulbs you can. It's a pain.

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My replacement fog light bulbs are the same as regular headlight bulbs. #9005 Xtravision Sylvania.

 

I purchased the replacement factory fogs from ebay a while ago and clearly they are brighter (came with new bulbs installed) however i don't believe the adjustment screws on them do anything at all, I've tried turned both either direction and they don't seem to adjust? Clearly they are not OEM made as the screws look different also but the lense in them is completely clear which my old ones were not, one side had a failed seal was filled with water. When its warmer i may take one off and see if it can be opened to look at the adjuster mechanism. For $35 I'm not unhappy i just feel like they are pointed too high for any real benefit over just regular lights or highbeam perhaps if i changed to yellow bulbs i would feel otherwise.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/351166731900?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT

 

I've replaced mine as well from a different aftermarket company; the adjustment is slight, and if you try to over adjust them, you will break the bar (ask me how I know).

If you take out the bulb, you'll be able to see the bar. And if you put your finger inside the bulb socket, you will be able to feel if the lens is moving while you adjust it

 

If I remember correctly, in California, if you have lights on your car that are not factory, they are illegal for street/road use. If you had extra lights (roof, bull bar, etc.) not only are they illegal to use, but they had to have covers on them. In some of the cities in the Los Angeles area, they were giving tickets for using your fog lights in town. This was in the 2000-2003 time frame. I think the reason for the tickets for fogs was an excuse to legally pull people over to see if there were any other things that could then be found, like drugs, open containers, etc.

 

What isn't illegal and been shown to cause cancer in California haha this doesn't surprise me.

 

Found a post that said to pop in a pair of 9005 bulbs, so I did and they're a perfect fit. The article also directed my to this link, which - to me at least - makes it sound as though this is an okay upgrade in some of the 50 states. The old bulbs I pulled out were rated at 35 watts, no wonder they didn't illuminate anything.

 

Found a post that said to pop in a pair of 9005 bulbs, so I did and they're a perfect fit. The article also directed my to this link, which – to me at least – makes it sound as though this is an okay upgrade in some of the 50 states. The old bulbs I pulled out were rated at 35 watts, no wonder they didn't illuminate anything.

I'm running 60 watt 3200K halogen 9005 in my fogs and am still very disappointed. I mean they look SEXY but they don't illuminate more than a few feet. Let me know how you like the new bulbs.

 

What about overloading the wiring? Do you think it would be an issue?

 

I replaced my stock crappy fogs with PIAA LP530 fogs http://www.amazon.com/PIAA-5370-Black-LED-Lamp/dp/B00544ZBEM

They were much brighter than the stockers, actually did great in the snow when I covered them with yellow lamin-x film. I could actually drive around with just the fogs on at night in the snow and see fine. They produce a very thin beam that when aimed properly, does not blind traffic or cause glare. Since they are LED, they are very bright white, color temp is probably 6000K and similar to my Rigids.

 

Agreed

The factory lights are FOG lights. FOG lights shouldn't light up the road real good nor should they be bright the reflection off FOG would be blinding. If you want to light up the road real good, you need DRIVING lights. DRIVING lights beam the light much tighter then FOG lights making then seems brighter to light up the road better.

Your fog lights are not supposed to be bright. They're not driving lights. More light, less visibility. Same reason for not using your brights when it's actually foggy out.

 

Agreed

Your fog lights are not supposed to be bright. They're not driving lights. More light, less visibility. Same reason for not using your brights when it's actually foggy out.

So I should turn all my lights off then? Lol Its about direction, aim, and leveling. Leave brightness out of this

 

I've got fog lights too!

 

Replacement Fog Lamp Bulbs

Whilst we're on the subject of fog lamps, I need replacement bulbs for my 2002 4.7 Overland fogs & I'm having a devil of a job finding them here in the UK. Even the local Jeep main dealer says they have to be ordered in and at £11.00 + VAT each!. There are loads available on eBay & the internet in general for later model jeeps, 2005 & up, at less than half that price. So does anyone know if they will fit? I've looked at a few close-up images, but it's hard to tell if the lugs on the base are the same layout.

Andrew

 

One easy, cheap, and very effective fog light upgrade is to use headlamp bulbs in the foglight sockets.
The locating tabs don't line up but can be easily filed to fit. Mine work well and throw a broad wide beam that is low enough not to blind oncoming drivers while still doing a great job of lighting the edges of narrow country roads.