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How far can you drive without a serpentine belt?

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#1 ·
I know this is a dumb question but I am asking it. Can you drive 1.7 miles on a flat surface without a serpentine belt on a 1994 ZJ with the 4.0L if the engine is cool from the start? Will the engine over heat that fast being that there is no coolant pump or fan running? Also do you have oil pressure if you have no belt?
 
#3 ·
The belt is fine. The thing is I am stripeing down my Jeep. I need the two aftermarket alternators in the Jeep. The problem is they take a long time to take out and I dont want to do it in the -10 degree cold. So my shop is 1.7 miles from my house. Well the Jeep is not going to be driven untill summer so I dont need to put a new belt on tell summer. It would make things 10x easier if I could just drive it home without a belt because I dont have a AC compressor anymore and thus I have to pretty much randomly guess as to the new belt size and that will take many trips back and fourth to the automotive parts store. But if it cant be done I will just pull the alts at home I guess then.
 
#5 ·
Well it might be possible. I did this with a friends xj. The motor was already blown and the belt was gone. But other than the harder than hell steering and some other minor difficulties it was done. It was dark out too and couldn't use the lights because it would drain the battery to quick.
 
#7 ·
I drove about 4 miles without mine a couple weeks ago. The AC idler pulley locked up and broke the belt. So I pulled over let it cool down (at Taco Bell) then fired it back up. Pulled out on the road, got up to speed, shut it off, coasted to the red light, repeated till I got home. I live in Florida and it wasn't -10. Just keep a close watch on the temp gauge.
 
#10 ·
Of course you can make it. Just be smart about it. Watch your temp gage. Stop the engine if necessary. Dress warm! Have a friend follow you!!!
 
#13 ·
Oops forgot about the PS. Yea I having me jeep a short distance without the PS. It is a huge choir to make turns at low speeds! I would call it dangerous. Thanks for pointing that out Turbonut.
 
#14 ·
oh this is definately possible. i was coming home one morning at 4:30 in the am in my mustang hatch 5.0 and the belt broke. I didn't know at first and went to turn a corner and the steering was out of control, and the alt light came on. Looked down at the temp and it was slowly starting to climb. Sure enough no belt and about 4 miles from the house! I let the car cool down to a cooler degree, then drove home without a problem.
 
#16 ·
Have a friend hook up and pull the jeep (you do have recovery point don't you?). It will be near impossible to steer with no power steering and it will drain the battery pretty quick with no alternator - i would avoid multiple starts.
 
#17 ·
:agree: Or make a belt outta duct tape:thumbsup:
 
#19 ·
Story about coldness & overheating:

Dad is from Montana and when he used to work at a garage there in the winter this lady comes in and explains that her heater isn't working (mid winter with -20 deg temperatures). He explains that she is out of coolant. She just won't buy it thinking that he is trying to scam her. She kept screaming that her car wasn't overheating. He explained that in -20 deg temps the engine won't overheat.

Another story: Dad lived in Montana still and was starting an old pickup when it was "cold" outside. The oil was so cold that the oil pump would suck up the oil faster then the oil could drain back towards the pump. So the oil pressure gauge kept bouncing up between having pressure and 0 PSI:rofl: Not too good for the engine I imagine:eek:
 
#21 ·
Driving any vehicle without a pump is like driving a vehicle with no coolant, engines will house less than 1 gallon of coolant generally. Thats not going to absorb but so much heat, about the time your waiting at a red light.

So to each his own you know the outcome if it doesnt work out.
 
#22 ·
I feel like I'm reading JU stuff again.

Have a buddy take you to the store and buy the belt. He'll take you back home where you can put it on.

By the time you've read all this, it could be done.


Hunter
 
#24 ·
yrubugn said:
Driving any vehicle without a pump is like driving a vehicle with no coolant, engines will house less than 1 gallon of coolant generally. Thats not going to absorb but so much heat, about the time your waiting at a red light.

So to each his own you know the outcome if it doesnt work out.
Gotta add a reply before going to the movies:
Think about a cold engine and the serpentine belt connected. The water pump is turning, but is the water circulating, no, because the thermostat isn't opened. In zero degree weather, how long does it take for the engine to heat the water to 195 and open the 'stat. A great deal longer than 2/3 minutes. Even then I've seen my temp gauge drop as the cold water enters the engine, stat closes, and the cycle starts all over again.
 
#25 ·
Turbonut said:
Gotta add a reply before going to the movies:
Think about a cold engine and the serpentine belt connected. The water pump is turning, but is the water circulating, no, because the thermostat isn't opened. In zero degree weather, how long does it take for the engine to heat the water to 195 and open the 'stat. A great deal longer than 2/3 minutes. Even then I've seen my temp gauge drop as the cold water enters the engine, stat closes, and the cycle starts all over again.
I agree to disagree that the coolant is not circulating through the radiater but is still circulating in a closed loop in the engine and heater hoses. If your statement was totally accurate you would fail to have heat until the stat opened and circulation began.

If that same water sits in the aluminum head for more than a few minutes it will reach OT in a few minutes give or take.