I believe your engine is the same as mine, so hopefully this write-up can help.

http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f19/timing-chain-write-up-1326191/

Do you have a puller to pull it off?

 

Yes I have the kit from advance auto. I can't find anything in that thread that says how to stop the engine from turning over. I'm on my phone so maybe I missed it...

 

If you have a stick shift, putting it in gear will hold nicely.

If you have an automatic, you have two choices:
1. remove the starter and jam somthing between the flywheel teeth and the bellhousing to stop the turning
2. use an impact wrench (this is FAR easier).

 

Do you have it in 4WD, in gear (or in Park for an automatic), reinstall the spark plugs, and chock the wheels.

The resistance from the engine should stop it from turning over.

 

Wait...what do you mean by the outer part?

 

If you have a stick shift, putting it in gear will hold nicely.

If you have an automatic, you have two choices:
1. remove the starter and jam somthing between the flywheel teeth and the bellhousing to stop the turning
2. use an impact wrench (this is FAR easier).

What do you recommend jamming in there? I wish I had an impact, that'd be awesome. I have an auto.

 

Use the bolts from the puller and thread them into the holes in the HB,(without the puller plate on ). Place something( like a large screwdriver or tire iron) in between 2 of the bolts and hold it while you loosen the main hub bolt. Hope this helps, it worked for me.

 

Use the bolts from the puller and thread them into the holes in the HB,(without the puller plate on ). Place something( like a large screwdriver or tire iron) in between 2 of the bolts and hold it while you loosen the main hub bolt. Hope this helps, it worked for me.

That's the thing though, I already removed the main 3/4 bolt. It's the pulley itself I'm having trouble removing.

 

Attach the puller plate to the hub with 3 bolts that should be with the kit. Screw down center puller bolt onto crank snout to remove the HB hub. Make sure the puller bolt is flat or larger than the bolt hole of the crank snout, so as not to damage the threads of the crank .Tighten down on the puller bolt and the HB should come off.

 

Attach the puller plate to the hub with 3 bolts that should be with the kit. Screw down center puller bolt onto crank snout to remove the HB hub. Make sure the puller bolt is flat or larger than the bolt hole of the crank snout, so as not to damage the threads of the crank .Tighten down on the puller bolt and the HB should come off.

The engine turns over when trying to remove the pulley. I know what to do, but I can't tighten down on it because it turns.

 

Pull the starter off. Have an assistant use a prybar to jam between the flywheel ring gear teeth & the case. This will keep the crankshaft from turning while you use the puller.

Max

 

Pull the starter off. Have an assistant use a prybar to jam between the flywheel ring gear teeth & the case. This will keep the crankshaft from turning while you use the puller.

Max

I'll try to tomorrow, as I don't have a pry bar yet! Or an assistant Haha.

 

If the bolts are long enough on the puller, place something in between 2 of the bolts while turning the center bolt.

 

If the bolts are long enough on the puller, place something in between 2 of the bolts while turning the center bolt.

I've tried that, I just don't have anything that long or skinny just yet. I'll try tomorrow once I get a pry bar/assistant! Beer time now.

 

I have heard... only heard... that one can bump the starter and use a long bar and the ground to loosen that bolt in an emergency.

Triple check the rotation of the pulley and the direction the bolt needs to go.

 

I have heard... only heard... that one can bump the starter and use a long bar and the ground to loosen that bolt in an emergency.

Triple check the rotation of the pulley and the direction the bolt needs to go.

Which bolt? I've already removed the center bolt. Are you talking about the shaft the pulley remover is on?

 

You pulled the center bolt, which is what everyone here is talking about. you should be threading in the puller bolts to the holes in the pulley, and then turning the center to force it out. turning of the pulley should not be in the equation any longer if the center crankshaft bolt has been removed.

 

You pulled the center bolt, which is what everyone here is talking about. you should be threading in the puller bolts to the holes in the pulley, and then turning the center to force it out. turning of the pulley should not be in the equation any longer if the center crankshaft bolt has been removed.

I have the pulley puller installed, but the whole assembly turns when I try to turn the main shaft the pulley puller is on, if that makes any sense haha

 

You pulled the center bolt, which is what everyone here is talking about. you should be threading in the puller bolts to the holes in the pulley, and then turning the center to force it out. turning of the pulley should not be in the equation any longer if the center crankshaft bolt has been removed.

Really?

If the center bolt is pulled (and it is) and the puller is installed (and it is) then turning the center puller bolt WILL turn the engine.

Pulling the starter & holding the flywheel is just one of a few ways to alleviate this problem.

Max

 

ah.

Take your pulley puller, an like posted earlier, put a crowbar or something in between the bolts to give it something to brace against. Rest it against the frame if need be. Ground works better if you have a 4' crowbar (if you dont, hit up a flea market sometime and grab one.. handy to have to move big things and do stuff like this)



yes, really!

Sorry, dont know what you guys have had happen, but I never had this issue on my engine when i did a timing chain. It came off with no problem, without having to jam anything anywhere.

Perhaps, it may be because when i use pullers, i make sure they are lubed with anti-seize so they dont freeze up. Or dumb luck, thats happened here or there.

 

I do several timing chain & other jobs each month in my shop. I've never had an HB come off that easy. Lubing the puller isn't the entire issue. A tight fitting pulley/balancer will often be very difficult to remove.

Max

 

I still want to know what he means by "the outer part of the harmonic balancer." Do you mean the heavy ring that is bonded to the inner hub with a band of rubber separating the two? Because if you somehow managed to pull that off, you will need a new HB.

 

I still want to know what he means by "the outer part of the harmonic balancer." Do you mean the heavy ring that is bonded to the inner hub with a band of rubber separating the two? Because if you somehow managed to pull that off, you will need a new HB.

Which is why I'm trying to get the old pulley off haha. I didn't pull it off, it walked itself off while I was driving.

 

Pulled a HB off a little Ford 2.0 today. You know what I did? Dropped the pan and put a plastic end of a dead-blow between the crank and the block wall.

 

Pulled a HB off a little Ford 2.0 today. You know what I did? Dropped the pan and put a plastic end of a dead-blow between the crank and the block wall.

That's one way to do it haha.

 

Oh yeah, did I forget to mention it was on an engine stand already and I was doing a to-the-block strip? :laugh:

 

Holy smokes! You're lucky it didn't damage the radiator when it came off. Or did it?

And just bit of info: sometimes, SOMETIMES the ring comes off the hub due to excessive vibration in the crankshaft. This can be caused by long term mis-firing cylinders, or pieces that have come off the piston skirt. Extreme heat is also not good.

Replace the HB and monitor the engine for vibration. It should be running smoothly. If not, fix what's broken.

 

I'm going to assume its because when I bought it, the belt squeaked because the PO had installed a new power steering pump, but didn't install the new pulley all the way onto the shaft. It stuck out about a quarter of an inch. I fixed it, but that was about 6 months ago. So I imagine it didn't help.

It almost came off, but I think the transmission lines held it on. Happened on a first date!