[armystrong68w]

That is a cool video but I have done just about all that snow stuff with my FD1 and 5 speed manual. I think the FDII would have an advantage in deep mud or hill climbing. I still believe the right tires for the job mean everything. I have a set of cable chains for 2 wheels and I believe chains on 4 wheels would make an awesome video. The Patriot is only limited by ground clearance in snow and once you are high centered resting on the belly it's game over but you can plow soft deep snow to a much greater depth than the 9" ground clearance would allow.

I second this!:amen:

 

[TheHeilis]

Ok, don't flame me, as I come from a land of solid axles, big mud tires, and archaic 6 cylinder engines.

You guys run the 5x4.5 bolt spacing right?

Why don't you pick up a set of 29" mud tires mounted on some old Cherokee steelies?

I've got too much lift, but with fresh mudders I can start, steer, and stop as if I were on pavement regardless of how much snow is on the ground.

15 inch XJ rims in my case hit the brake calipers. I think 15X8 Cragars will work with the proper back spacing though.

 

[JKTim]

general tire make a great snow and light mud tire. the general 'grabber at2' it would be perfect for a patriot.

 

[srtdodge05]

I mite look for some cheap rims and tires just for the winter if i get some extra cash for next winter.

 

[AJeepZJ]

Most of us who have MK's and "other" Jeeps tend to agree that the Compass' and Patriots handle better than the "others". Except for the wife's WK with Quadra-Drive II, it's great!

All hail the WK!

I'm sorry I have nothing of value to add to this topic, most people stated what I thought. But the WK's do drive like a wet dream in the snow.

Hi Gramps!

 

[TheHeilis]

Does that mean my MK is only a damp dream?

 

[Gramps]

All hail the WK!

I'm sorry I have nothing of value to add to this topic, most people stated what I thought. But the WK's do drive like a wet dream in the snow.

Hi Gramps!

Hi ya!

Yes they do and so do the MK's BUT I hate ridding in the back seat of the WK with my knees in my chin! The MK's front seats are raised so there is plenty of foot room in the back.

 

[Charles]

It's been said but it can't be said enough. You haven't given the vehicle a chance until you put a dedicated snow tire on. And the video posted was on dirt where the tire has a chance to press down and shape the traction surface to allow more traction. Roads, especially well traveled ones, aren't the same medium as a field.

Another member said something about big mud tires or off-road tires. A dedicated snow tire will murder a mud/ AT tire in the snow on a street.

 

[Urr]

A dedicated snow tire will murder a mud/ AT tire in the snow on a street.

I do agree with that. A dedicated (= studded & with good pattern) snow tire will murder any tire in the snow or ice on the street.

Here are two examples, same spot:

1) 4WD with weared snow tire, (+ no central locking):

2) 4WD with new studded snow tire (+ central locking encaged)

 

[miketmx]

That video comparison from Urr is really cool. I think the tirerack.com studless winter tire comparison is biased for the benefit of drivers where studded tires are not legal. I have studless Michelin X-Ice Xi2 on our Patriot now but the tread is not as aggressive as the Hankook I-Pike tires which can be studded. Maybe a combination of new technology rubber and studs where legal is the best answer but I'm in no position to do my own independent testing.

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tests/testDisplay.jsp?ttid=94

 

[tjwrangler99]

A dedicated snow tire will murder a mud/ AT tire in the snow on a street.

This also depends on the depth... A MT would be horrible in light snow/ice. But if you are driving through more than a foot of the stuff, I would prefer something like an MT. Or even more so, if you were off pavement in deep snow.

 

[gageguy]

This also depends on the depth... A MT would be horrible in light snow/ice. But if you are driving through more than a foot of the stuff, I would prefer something like an MT. Or even more so, if you were off pavement in deep snow.

I respectfully disagree. I had a '94 Ram with 33x12.5 BFG mud terrains. I was tired of the noise as they wore out and went to 33x12.5 BFG all terrains instead. The snow performance, reguardless of snow depth, was better. The biggest improvment was stability (stayed straighter) and shortened braking distance, by quite a few feet. They were also more predictable through corners. I could run the same power line trail in the winter with either tire, but on-road feel was much improved.