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Clutch pedal bushing

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#1 ·
Ok o I searched around, and searched the forums here and came up nearly empty.

I did a tranny swap in my 1990 YJ, and removed my clutch master from the pedal. When I removed it, there was a plastic/nylon bushing on the clutch pedal where the clucth master attaches to it. It was really torn and barely there. While searching here, I found someone else asking about this bushing but there were no answers.

I want to find a new bushing, but cant seem to locate one. The "pin" on my clutch pedal seems to be aorund 3/8-1/2", while the "hole" in the clutch master cylinder pushrod is about 5/8".

I tried my local hardware store but couldnt find anything close enough there either. All I find in catalogs are the bushings that the clutch pedal swings on- not for attachment to the master.

Does anyone know where to get one? I can feel that bit of play, and it makes me wonder how much clutch disengagement I am missing when I push the pedal.
 
#3 ·
I was hoping to check there last. I didnt want to pay some rediculous price for a 50 cent bushing. You did find one at the dealer though? Recently?
 
#4 · (Edited)
Another consideration would be to scrounge around your local Pick-and Pull, or any equivalent vehicle wrecking yard/junkyard and see if you can find what you need. There are a ton of Cherokees out there in the yards and they have the same setup. You can likely find one in serviceable condition.
I don't blame you for wanting to avoid going to the Dealership, but sometimes that turns out to be the only way if you can't fabricate, substitute or salvage something like that nylon bushing/shoulder sleeve.

EDIT: I went thru my parts CD and compared the various YJ year groups. There is no bushing demonstrated on any of the drawings. My Jeep is out with the boys at the moment so I can't look at a 93. What is demonstrated is a pin that sticks out one side of the clutch pedal shaft, there is a small hole drilled across this pin. The end of the clutch master has a "ring" that slides on the pin with a wave washer on one side and a flat washer on the other, then a cotter pin goes thru the small hole mentioned previously that holds everything together. In my cluttered garage in the pile o' parts is an old clutch master and the ring mikes out at 0.380
So now I am not certain of your setup. If it is different that what I described above, then you have something unique. Otherwise your hole in your clutch master pushrod is all wallowed out and it would not be unreasonable to get a new clutch master cyl. Are you able to submit photos of your setup? You may be on a snipe hunt.

EDIT EDIT: look at the photo's in Mean Max's clutch MC replacement. It shows the mechanism in his first few photos. Is yours like this, or something entirely different?
http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f12/clutch-master-cylinder-replacement-728960/ Photos are of his neighbor's '89.
 
#5 ·
I found this link in the FAQ's http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f12/...m/forum/f12/tech-howto-remove-brake-clutch-assembly-repair-replacement-1016134/ I am not completely able to orient myself to some of the photos as they do not demonstrate the entire assembly, but this appears to indicate a completely different mechanism for the clutch actuation from what I have, from what is demonstrated in the Parts CD, and from what is shown in Mean Max's clutch MC write up.
This link appears to show the clutch MC connects to an arm separate from the clutch pedal arm itself, but connected to the swing mechanism rather than to a pin from the side of the clutch pedal arm as in Max's photos of the '89 and in my '93.

Which mechanism do you have? Photos would really be helpful at this point.
 
#7 ·
My clutch "pin" is attached directly to the clutch pedal, not separate like the one pictured in the lower link. Its also not like the one pictured of the '95 above. Its most like the one in this link by "mean max";
http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f12/clutch-master-cylinder-replacement-728960/

My clutch master shaft still has a nice gold tone to it, and doesnt appear worn at all. There was definately a bushing on it, and its remains came off when I separated the parts. My pin seems larger than 3/8- I bought a bushing 3/8 ID x 1/2 OD and it wouldnt go on the pin. I dont think I have a hole for a pin or clip of any sorts. I wont be near the Jeep until tomorrow morning so pics will have to wait until at least then- I am at work for 24 hours, ending tomorrow at 8am. Thanks for all the help so far.
 
#8 ·
Medic--your set up then has the metal connector on the end of the Master cyl push rod like Max's and not like the plastic connector posted by NewYJ above. Unless that plastic bushing you described is a part of the master cyl you're going to have to fabricate. It is not a part either listed or documented in the schematics on the Jeep parts CD (same thing they reference at the dealership). It does not appear to be part of the MC though since in Max's photo, there is no bushing on the new part he shows in his photo.

I'll wait for your photos.
 
#10 ·
Okay fellow Jeepers. Following Karma's message above I went thru the XJ (Cherokee) series in both my FSM and the factory parts CD. There is a bushing for this application, PN J4007472.

The clutch pedals are different for the XJ and YJ applications. The YJ has the stud for the clutch MC poking out the side of the clutch pedal shaft as shown in Mean Max's photos in the link I posted above. The XJ series has the stud for the Clutch MC on a separate shaft welded to the swing mechanism as is shown in the second link by bharris68. Interesting that bharris68's happens to be on a YJ. I am guessing that they were actually interchangeable and could be randomly substituted at the factory depending on how bad a bender the assembly folks had been on the night before. Of course the stud itself hammers/presses into the shaft, and it could be simple for the studs to be or to have been substituted. If the XJ style pin was pressed in the YJ pedal shaft, you'd need the bushing. Seems to make sense to me but remember I've been in the Army since 1977 and few things surprise me. I'm also more inclined to accept some illogical situations and just drive on with the mission. I really really really need to retire, but if I do the place I am holding together may just spiral into the ground.....................

So--if you need a bushing, try that part number. If you google it you can come up with some sources other than the dealership.

https://www.checkanumber.com/advsearch.php? Type in the part number, it won't link to the actual page for me.

CLUTCH PEDAL TO PUSH ROD BUSHING | Mopar Part # Search

Of course, we're still holdinig our breath for photos of your setup.
 
#11 ·
Pictures!! Sorry theyre so big!!! Although I couldnt see a hole for a cotter pin or clip in real life- I think I can see one in the picture. The bushing on my console is the remnants of the stock bushing. It is "capped" at one end although being open seems like it would work just fine.

Thanks for the tip on the part number. For ~$3 I think I will see if my jeep dealer can get me one.

**the oil on the spring is from spraying some teflon on the pivot bushings to cure a squeak**
 

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#12 ·
Yes, you have a hole for a cotter pin. There should be a washer on each side of the "ring" on the end of the clutch MC rod, one is a wave washer. It is shown in Max's photos in his clutch MC thread.

I don't see space for a bushing though as your pin looks pretty close to the size of the ring. I suppose that is just the photo though.

Let us know how it all turns out.