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Cant Find Tires, 97XJ 215 75 15, 225 70 15, really need advice

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#1 ·
Hi, I'm female and after three weeks of trying frustrated as hell. Im looking for tires that are good in snow but cant afford dedicated ones and I did a ton of homework. Seems every decent tire doesnt come in my size door sais 215 75 15, websites say 225 70 15. What do I have to do? Do I need to change rims (id be junkyarding it) and to what? is there another answer? pleas ehelp. thanks.
 
#4 ·
215, 225, and 235/75 - 15 all will fit on stock rims and work well. other sizes with a similar sidewall height such as a 70 series tires will also fit. Google for a tire diameter calculator to determine actual the tires size, some have a side by side feature that will calculate the differences in sizes for you. Tire width is not very important, and tire height can vary by as much as 1-2 inches and you will not notice any difference.

Kuhmo Road Venture AT51 is a very good and low cost All Terrain/winter tire. BFG All Terrain also are a good winter tire. Firestone Destination A/T suck as winter tires.

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#17 ·
…… Firestone Destination A/T suck as winter tires.
I have owned a dozen or more 4x4's with various brands of tires, and have driven tens of thousands of miles in Minnesota winters, and the Firestone Destination A/T was the worst winter tire. They are quite and smooth on pavement, but I would only recommend them for non-snowy locations. There are a number of better choices for snowy/icy roads.
 
#6 ·
My boy's S10 runs the same size tires. If you want anything other than passenger tires you will have to pay more money for them.

He got some Yokohama Geolander ATs for about $550 for all four.

If you step up to 235s you will have more options and may pay less. I am not sure if they will rub on your vehicle or not.
 
#8 ·
Can't say about an actual snow rated touring tire since I don't know...I have Cooper Discoverer AT3 but there is also an AT3 4S that just came out this year and is designed for better snow use with a Three Peak Mountain Snow Rating (not just M+S rating) and it is still a 65,000 mile warrantied tire. Walmart has the 225/70R15 (not available in a 215) for $108 shipped to store and I think that includes mounting if you do ship to store so that's about the best price you'll be able to find. Plus you usually get a slight discount for ship to store. There are pretty good reviews although limited since they just came out.
https://www.walmart.com/ip/Cooper-Discoverer-A-T3-4S-All-Terrain-Tire-225-70R15-100T/266951043

Details
https://tirecrawler.com/blog/introducing-the-cooper-discoverer-at3-4s/

One review
https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads/cooper-discoverer-at3-4s-review.557727/

Note: 215/75, 225/70, and 235/70 are all acceptable on stock wheels and all three were available tire sizes for a 1997 Cherokee with the same size (but different style) 15" wheel.
 
#10 ·
Cooper AT3 s are great snow tires. I've,had two sets. Living in southern Colorado and driving up Wolf creek pass every day in the winter definitely makes me an expert on the subject. I have friends who have Subaru's call me for rides to the ski area on big snow days.
Check out the AT3 4S they just came out with that I linked....The AT3 now has three lines all with at least 60k treadwear rating. Wish the 4S had been out when I bought my AT3's. We don't get much snow here, once a year usually and it quickly turns to ice which nothing is good on, but it just takes once to make you appreciate being prepared for it. I don't put a lot of miles on anything so my tires are usually dry rotted before half the tread is used up....last set I replaced on my truck had less than 10k on them in almost fifteen years and the tread split open on one of them. Oh so painful to still see the paint between the treads and have to buy new tires.
https://www.moderntiredealer.com/news/729925/cooper-unveils-discoverer-at3-tire-line
 
#12 ·
Quick question and thanks for the help, is there a benefit to getting 225 or 235 over 215? One thing I,m worried about is I am terrified driving my moms Jeep Liberty because the car has a lean feeling on every turn. I developed some fears after spending time in an ICU unit and am trying to get some necessary driving confidence back, my fear is bigger tires will change center of gravity or cause that feeling. I do camp on some dirt roads twice a yar and Im also wondering if there is a benefit to getting bigger tires. I had my heart set on toyo celcius or nokian G3 but couldnt get them in my size, one tire place wouldnt install 70's instead of 75 and the jeep gal there didnt recommend going to a 70. I have found general grabber general at42 and another tire guy wants to put goodyear wrangler OEM on them but I read about blowouts (not a good thought for a scaredy cat). any thoughts on the goodyears? Thanks in advance.
 
#13 ·
I have a 97 XJ owner's manual here and it gives three tire sizes
as original equipment : P215/75R15, P225/75R15, and P225/70R15.
Tire pressure is given as 33psi.

My XJ came with 225/75R15 tires on it. They would be fine for highway
and in-town driving. If you can get BFG All-Terrains in that size, you'll
be happy in all seasons and your occasional dirt road driving.

As for a bigger size, my XJ has 235/75R15 tires now and I see no difference
on the highway and a small advantage on the many gravel roads I drive on.
235s would be OK for you, they just cost a little more.

As for the instability of your mom's Liberty, that is more likely due to worn
or too soft shock absorbers, tire pressure too low, or worn out bushings in
the front sway bar.
 
#14 ·
X2 on what RLE stated about stock tire sizes. Mine came with 225/75x15 stock. I have the Firestone Destination A/t now which to me have a soft sidewall( more lean in corners but great traction). Not used to snow or ice down here though. Last tires were General Grabber AT2s which are snow rated and studdable. These tires handled great and the traction was excellent. The downside was that they required a lot of balance weight and tended to develop flat spots when cold.
 
#15 ·
“ 215, 225, and 235/75- 15 all will fit on stock rims and work well. Kuhmo Road Venture AT51 is a very good and low cost All Terrain/winter tire. BFG All Terrain also are a good winter tire. Firestone Destination suck as winter tires.“

I disagree with the above. I have run Firestone AT on my ‘97 Jeep Grand Cherokee until they wore out then replaced them with another set. Great tires, true we don’t have long deep snow periods but they have good tread in snow or mud and are great in rain and highway daily driving. 🙂
 
#16 ·
" 215, 225, and 235/75- 15 all will fit on stock rims and work well. Kuhmo Road Venture AT51 is a very good and low cost All Terrain/winter tire. BFG All Terrain also are a good winter tire. Firestone Destination suck as winter tires."

I disagree with the above. I have run Firestone AT on my '97 Jeep Grand Cherokee until they wore out then replaced them with another set. Great tires, true we don't have long deep snow periods but they have good tread in snow or mud and are great in rain and highway daily driving. 🙂
Things may have changed over the years but I remember in the past the Firestone Tires and the old type b BFG MTs and ATs didnt stand up on the trails.

The firestone's a chunked real bad and the bfgs had weeks side walls that would rip easily, but that was a long time ago. They may have improve things by now.
 
#18 ·
First I think you are confusing metric and standard sizes....or it seems that way.... the 215 225 235 refer to the width of the tire tread and not the height. Standard sizes list the height first....like 31x10.50x15 but metric sizes list width first. So the difference in the metric you are looking at are their widths and all of those will work. My XJ is stock and has factory wheels and 235x75x15 tires on it.

BFG AT KO2 is great but they are not cheap. Kuhmo and Hankook I have used both of their cheap all terrains and the Hankooks were on my old 89 XJ I had I college and they were great in the snow and slush.
 
#20 ·
Goodyear Trailrunner's play well in the snow, Also had Firestone Destination A/T on my 97 ZJ they played well too. Hankook AT pretty cheap at walmart work well too. Where are you I have a set of 5 Goodyear Trailrunner's balanced mounted and ready to roll for sale in Denver CO. PM me if interested.
 
#21 ·
Not sure what will help with the fear part, other than just getting out there and driving it and realizing it's not a car. Going to 235s isn't going to change the CG any appreciable amount. Any SUV is going to have the feeling you are describing especially older ones.