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5 Slot OEM 15X7 Aluminum Wheels

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I came across a set of five OEM 15X7 aluminum 5 slot wheels 5 on 5.5 for sale off a ‘76 CJ. Wheels look in excellent condition. On the reverse side is stamped A13738 and FORGED - nothing else. My questions: Will these fit my ‘79 CJ5 with power disc brakes? Are these genuine OEM wheels?


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Sorry - photos didn't post - here they are: (Seller polished one wheel to show how they would look.)
 

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Thanks Matt. I was leaning that way but was not 100 percent certain. I was concerned the wheels had no stamping on the inside like 15X7JJ and the manufacturer, etc. Seller claims these cane off a ‘76 CJ and are original to the Jeep.
 
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hello
the only 5 slot wheels that came from the factory were on the early 70's cj5 renegade 2's. if i remember they were a 15x7 wheel. i doubt those are original. they look like they are U.S. MAG U101 wheels. they can look very good on a cj.

oldschool
 
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They are factory. Early CJ5 Renegades had them, but also were available during the 76-86 era. But I think they were phased out early on. Seen here in the 1976 literature. I've got a set, I can see if the numbers match. 15x7 were factory, wider versions exist but were not (15x8, 15x10).

When I was stationed in Hawaii in the early 90s, a friend had a bone stock 76 CJ7 exactly like the one in this picture.
 

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That would be great if you could verify the number cast into the inside of the wheels. Seller is adamant they came with a new ‘76 CJ. My concern is fitment over my front disc brakes and also are they OEM.
 
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That would be great if you could verify the number cast into the inside of the wheels. Seller is adamant they came with a new '76 CJ. My concern is fitment over my front disc brakes and also are they OEM.
I'd be suspicious if those wheels have been media blasted. Not necessarily bad, but they look really clean, especially the back side.

Mine aren't nearly that nice. I had to go at the wheels with an abrasive pad, but I found "FORGED" and what looks like a different number.
 

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There used to be a guy who sold refinished, original American made forged aluminum wheels on ebay. He would CNC polish them and then clear powder coat them. They looked better than new. He had a couple sets of these Jeep slots and they were stunning. I thought I saved his info and pictures of the wheels, but can't find it now.
 
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Here is some other info:
http://www.earlycj5.com/xf_cj5/inde...ex.php?threads/15-slotted-wheel-identification-tips-for-real-jeep-wheels.33546/

I researched these wheels quite a bit about 20 years ago, and I was active on the EarlyCJ5 board.

As for your question, will they fit factory disc brakes, I'm not sure. I don't recall ever seeing these wheels as factory after 1976, and of course front discs didn't come out till mid 77. So, they might not, but my bet is they will. I can check tomorrow, I will have to pull my CJ D30 axle out from behind 3 or 4 others.
 
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hello again
unfortunately the only real way to see if they would fit is to try one on your jeep. i know that the old steel kelsey-hayes steel renegade wheels wouldnt fit on a disc brake because of the rivets in them. the old renegade wheels can be hit or miss. i looked at the earlycj5 board there is a little info on there but nothing diffident other then factory were 15x7 and forged was on the back. other then that they are hard to find a original set just like the old deep kelsey-hayes renegade steel wheels. i have seen some cj7 with disc and the aftermarket u101. you could try and get ahold of U.S. Mag and see what markings they put on the back of there indy u101. least you then you would know there not those.

oldschool
Good you thought of that, I to had trouble mounting early CJ5 wheels on my 77 CJ axles.

Don't know if the later disks would fit though. Those early disks were big.
 
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Sorry for the multiple posts, my memory is slow.

I seem to recall finding lug nuts can be problematic. I would ask the seller if the lug nuts are available.
 
#17 ·
hello again
unfortunately the only real way to see if they would fit is to try one on your jeep. i know that the old steel kelsey-hayes steel renegade wheels wouldnt fit on a disc brake because of the rivets in them. the old renegade wheels can be hit or miss. i looked at the earlycj5 board there is a little info on there but nothing diffident other then factory were 15x7 and forged was on the back. other then that they are hard to find a original set just like the old deep kelsey-hayes renegade steel wheels. i have seen some cj7 with disc and the aftermarket u101. you could try and get ahold of U.S. Mag and see what markings they put on the back of there indy u101. least you then you would know there not those.

oldschool
 
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hello again
unfortunately the only real way to see if they would fit is to try one on your jeep. i know that the old steel kelsey-hayes steel renegade wheels wouldnt fit on a disc brake because of the rivets in them. the old renegade wheels can be hit or miss. i looked at the earlycj5 board there is a little info on there but nothing diffident other then factory were 15x7 and forged was on the back. other then that they are hard to find a original set just like the old deep kelsey-hayes renegade steel wheels. i have seen some cj7 with disc and the aftermarket u101. you could try and get ahold of U.S. Mag and see what markings they put on the back of there indy u101. least you then you would know there not those.

oldschool
The wheels in the picture aren't US Mag Indy U101 wheels. You can look at the lug nut holes, and the slots (how close they come to the edge of the rim: closer on US Mags, more space on the vintage Jeep wheels) and determine that.
 
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Thanks for all the info everyone. I’m still on the fence about these wheels. Seller wants $500.00 for the 5 wheels and I would need to pay shipping - they are about 10-11 hours away. Might pass - don’t know for certain.
 
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Thanks for all the info everyone. I'm still on the fence about these wheels. Seller wants $500.00 for the 5 wheels and I would need to pay shipping - they are about 10-11 hours away. Might pass - don't know for certain.
In my humble opinion that is a crazy amount of money for used rims. And they are not even OEM Rims. I have done alot of shopping for rims for my CJ and Tacoma. I would say 50$ a rim is much more reasonable.

For my Jeep I ended up buying new wagon wheels from Pro Comp for 55$ each. However, I am planning on moving to OEM 15x8 rims, just need to find 1 more.
 
#21 ·
schardein - Did you get a chance to try the 5 slot aluminum wheels on your CJ D30? Just curious if they fit OK on a factory front disc brake setup. Thanks!
 
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I just came in from the workshop. The answer is a definite "No, but maybe, with some grinding". The axle I used for the test fit is a late 77 narrow track D30 with the large brakes (ventilated rotors). The wheel bolted on, but wouldn't make a full revolution before binding up on the caliper. You can see in the pictures that the aluminum wheel will require grinding on the caliper and mount to clear, and even then it will be very close. Also pictured is a somewhat rare late "base" model plain steel wheel 15" by 5.5" wide, that does clear but not by much more.

The wheel might fit later disc brakes with the single thickness rotors, or might not. I don't have one to test it one.

Pictures loaded out of order, the first pic is the "base" steel wheel.

When I get my D44 reassembled, I'm going to try it on, but I doubt it will fit.

EDIT: The matching axle to the left in the pictures is a 77 NT AMC20 with factory 11" drum brakes. It has the same 15x7 aluminum slot wheels, and they do clear the 11" drums. I was trying to remember where my other two wheels were at... there they are.

2nd EDIT: I now suspect 1976 was the last year for these wheels, or perhaps into early 77, but were probably discontinued with the move to disc brakes.
 

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#23 ·
Thank You! Appreciate all the trouble/work you went through. I’ll pass on these aluminum wheels - keeping my 15X8 White Spoke Steel Wheels. Thanks everyone for your input.
 
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Interesting development, the wheels do fit the Dana 44 axle in my CJ7, with room to spare.

This is a 1977 J10 front Dana 44, with Chevy spindle, Chevy brake caliper mount plate, Ford hub, Jeep rotor, and Chevy brake caliper.

Now I'm curious if they would fit the later CJ disc brakes.
 

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I know Jeep changed the caliper mount and rotor thickness from model year 1978 to 1979. These wheels look great and we know they are OEM. Still too much of a gamble for me.

Maybe if the wheels were closer than 10+ hour drive. Thanks for the additional info schardein. Appreciate it!
 
#29 ·
I have a set on my 84 Scrambler. I think they came off a Wagoneer. I would have the guy measure the center hole, the off set, and the ID of the inside of the wheel. You should be able to see if they'd fit by those. Pictures of the tape measuring. The outside lip on mine looks thicker than those, but its a pictures.
 
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@baldfatdad has the right idea. At the time it was all non-standard standard. I have 2 sets of those in a 15" 6 lug pattern for my D44s w/disks and they fit just fine. Interesting thing is that 1 set is 3/4" thick and the other is 1" thick at the hub. The style was OEM at the time, but who knows for sure if THOSE are genuine OEM other than the guy 10 hours away saying they are. Get the measurements and go from there.