are they bias or radial, if they are bias they will not make for a good daily driver, your also gonna need some lift, whether it be a BB, or spring, 33s will not fit stock.

 

I've run bias ply TSL's in that size on my TJ for a couple years. The first 6 months or so it served DD duty including a 30-mile each way interstate commute. The bias ply tires flat-spotted badly, tracked poorly in grooves on pavement, let go way too easily in snow/ice, rode rough and were super noisy, even drowning out the wind noise of my soft top. I've since picked up a set of AT's and cheap aluminum rims for pavement use and keep my swampers on steel rims for trail duty.
Overall, I LOVE the tires - off-road, and HATE them on pavement.

Additionally, putting on super swamper 33's (which really measure closer to most manufacturer's 35" tires) w/o a lift just won't work without major rubbing.

I don't have any experience w/ the radial version of that tire so can't comment on that.

 

FT 3" ecomomy lift is getting ordered tomorrow...

 

i run 33x12.5 trxus on mine, its not to bad but not best choice

 

You can run them for a DD but I would not. Terrible road maners, VERY loud and poor street traction. They are a mud tire; not dirt, not rocks, not street but MUD. Get yourself a set of ATs if you do mostly street driving or even some MTs if you see the trail frequently. You will be much happier that way.

 

im actually buying a set of BFG mud terrains for street use, and using my TSLs for trail only. why not keep your 31s as your daily tire, then get a set of cheap rims to throw those swampers on. then switch them out for trail use

 

I run TSL Radial 33X12.5X15 on my CJ. They ride nice on the road and never give me any handling issues even on uneven pavement or large cracks. They are loud, especially after some tread wear. As far as winter, SCARY! They are OK in deep snow but SCARY! on slippery roads. I don't have any hydroplaning issue either. Off road performance is excellent.

For my LJ (daily driver) I am running 285/75/16 TOYO M/T's. These tires are awesome!! They work great in all conditions including rock, sand, mud, snow, hill climbing, hard packed trail, gravel, slippery roads (not glare ice) and are amazingly quiet. Almost as quiet as an all-terrain (Almost). I have 22,000 miles on them and the wear is impressive. Lots of life left.

From my experience I would not buy Super Swamper TSL's for a daily driver. Just the limited tread life alone would make it not worth doing, unless of course, you have unlimited $$$. They also have much more rolling resistance due to the aggressive tread which means you will need more power to turn them and you are going to use more gas as well.

 

Super swampers are some ugly tires!

 

what does that have to do with the topic. by the way i think with my swampers i can drive over your GC

 

what about swamper mt radials? 33 x 12.50's?

 

with no lift get ya some 32" swamper TSL radials, I have them and think they ride nice and great on the trail.

 

I have the tires you are considering buying on my 78 CJ7. They are loud on the freeway but just fine for the road. I don't find them to be bumpy or steer my jeep. They look great too. Whoever said Super Swampers look ugly is stupid. They look aggressive and fitting for a jeep!

 

I have 33x10.50 Swamper TSL Radials, drive 300 miles a week, have 12,000 miles on them with plenty life left, they're not ridiculously loud(can still hold a conversation easily, radio drowns them out without a lot of volume, etc).

Though the key factor is I have 10.50 wide tires... skinnier = quieter.

You can run them for a DD but I would not. Terrible road maners, VERY loud and poor street traction. They are a mud tire; not dirt, not rocks, not street but MUD.

Wrong, wrong, wrong, and wrong again. Drive them before you throw out BS on something you've never seen or heard. Radials are great, bias ply does indeed suck on-road and in no way would I recommend them.

I sure didn't have any problems in "not-mud"

http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v...94/flatlander757/Jeep stuff/Uwharrie - May 08/?action=view&current=100_0186.flv

http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v...94/flatlander757/Jeep stuff/Uwharrie - May 08/?action=view&current=100_0159.flv

http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v...94/flatlander757/Jeep stuff/Uwharrie - May 08/?action=view&current=100_0180.flv

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I need to get a video with me talking as I'm driving down the road at 60mph some time. It's really not bad with 33x10.50s. EVERYBODY who has been in my Jeep with me has commented how quiet the tires are for how knobby they appear.

Street traction is great, they won't hydroplane at ALL when wet and going through big honkin' puddles, the skinny size lets them cut right through effortlessly. Only downside is they stop just as poorly on wet roads as the stock GS-As.

I'll recommend the 10.50 wide due to noise and MPG and street manners over the 12.50.

Do a search for a technical article on skinny vs wide tires. Unless you're on sand or deep snow (and maybe huge f-n rocks) the skinny tires are nearly always preferred.

 

I have 33x10.50 Swamper TSL Radials, drive 300 miles a week, have 12,000 miles on them with plenty life left, they're not ridiculously loud(can still hold a conversation easily, radio drowns them out without a lot of volume, etc).

Though the key factor is I have 10.50 wide tires... skinnier = quieter.

Wrong, wrong, wrong, and wrong again. Drive them before you throw out BS on something you've never seen or heard. Radials are great, bias ply does indeed suck on-road and in no way would I recommend them.

I sure didn't have any problems in "not-mud"

http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v...94/flatlander757/Jeep stuff/Uwharrie - May 08/?action=view&current=100_0186.flv

http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v...94/flatlander757/Jeep stuff/Uwharrie - May 08/?action=view&current=100_0159.flv

http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v...94/flatlander757/Jeep stuff/Uwharrie - May 08/?action=view&current=100_0180.flv

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I need to get a video with me talking as I'm driving down the road at 60mph some time. It's really not bad with 33x10.50s. EVERYBODY who has been in my Jeep with me has commented how quiet the tires are for how knobby they appear.

Street traction is great, they won't hydroplane at ALL when wet and going through big honkin' puddles, the skinny size lets them cut right through effortlessly. Only downside is they stop just as poorly on wet roads as the stock GS-As.

I'll recommend the 10.50 wide due to noise and MPG and street manners over the 12.50.

Do a search for a technical article on skinny vs wide tires. Unless you're on sand or deep snow (and maybe huge f-n rocks) the skinny tires are nearly always preferred.

Wasn't talking about the skinny ones but the 12.5s as everyone else was. I have ridden in a Jeep with Boggers and felt every lug bounce as low speed. Loud whine at highway speed. Perhaps it is a wash for 10.5 Boggers or 12.5 MTs but if you want to compare 10.5 Boggers with comparable width ATs or MTs they still are not the best choice for on road driving.

 

Well, I picked up some 33x12.5x15 **** Cepek Mud Country's from Tire Discounters on Saturday and then picked up a brand new 33x12.5x15 Sidewinder MT for a spare for only $75 on Sunday. Now if my lift would get here so I can get it on.......it's a pain in the *** babying the Jeep around to keep these tires from rubbing!!!!!!

 

i heard that interco produced a heavier tire. are you sold on that brand?

 

I just swicthed from 35" procomp at's to 35" procomp xterrains. My jeep is becoming a trail rig and no longer a dd. I've noticed that driving in the rain is a lot different now. Scary!!! Another thing to think about is that your gas mileage is gonna go down, and on a dd, you're gonna see the difference right away. Another downside to a dd with mud tires is the wear factor. You're gonna wear those tires a lot faster than a set of at's.

I actually think about my tires wearing down every time I drive my jeep. I know, sad huh?! I;m torn between keeping my at's for long trips or selling them for some bumper money!!!

Long story short; I'd buy a set of swampers and steelie for the trail and buzzing around town on the weekend like a bada**, keep some at's for day to day driving...