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I'm going to start this thread with an on-line post of the "History of the Warn 8274 Winch", and then ask my question.

The history of the WARN M8274 winch
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WRITTEN: MARCH 02, 2011
BY ANDY LILIENTHAL
The WARN M8274 is probably the best-known and most recognized winch Warn Industries makes. Introduced in 1974, it replaced the original Belleview winch that was made from 1959-1973.
The M8274 has remained basically unchanged since '74, with only minor tweaks including upgraded electrics throughout the years, and a few cosmetic revisions. In 1998, to celebrate Warn Industries' 50th anniversary, the name was changed to M8274-50, and there were some slight cosmetic changes. In 2008, to celebrate the company's 60th anniversary, a limited-edition M8274-60 was offered, each individually numbered, equipped with synthetic rope, painted black, and shipped in a special wooden crate.

By the way, have you ever wondered what M8274 stood for? The M stands for "model," 8 is for its 8,000 lb. capacity, 2 is for "two-way" (freespool and power-in), and 74 is the year it was introduced.

Identifying early M8274s
Since the M8274 has been around for nearly 40 years, there are quite a few of them out there, many still performing regular recovery duty. We get a fair amount of requests to identify how old a specific M8274 is. Here's a way to identify them up until about the early 1990s.

On the top of the upper housing there will be a code with two letters and a number. For example, we'll use FB6.


The first letter stands for the month the winch was made (A=1, B=2, C=3, etc.). Therefore, with our example, F would equal the sixth month: June


The second letter stands for the working day of the month, not including Saturdays or Sundays. Our example says "B," which would be the second working day of the month.


The ending number represents the year the winch was made during the '70s or '80s. In this example, it's 6, so that'd be '76 or '86. (Remember, M8274 production started in '74 and this coding system stopped in the early 1990s, after that, Warn used serial numbers.) Beginning in about 1980, Warn switched from a metal socket on the control pack to a plastic socket. So, depending on which one your winch has would determine which year your M8274 was manufactured.


So an M8274 with the code FB6 and a metal socket on the control box would've been made in June of 1976 on the second working day of the month.

A big thanks to the WARN Customer Service team for the information on decoding the older models. Here are a few photos of M8274s through the years.

WARN M8274 winch ad from 1974 WARN M8274-50 winch WARN M8274-60


Okay, now that everyone knows the history, a co-worker of mine bought an 8274 in what he tell's me was the late 70's or early 80's. He said he will get the code number, so we can identify when it was manufactured. He say's, and I have no reason not to believe him, that when he bought it, he opened the box, looked at it, and it has been stored ever since. My question is, how much is it worth? Or I guess, how much would someone spend? He said he would give me a good deal, but I also told him there may be people that would spend up to $2000.00 dollars for it. I would love to have it for my own, but I also want to be fair with him. Anyone's input will be greatly appreciated.
 
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The one your talking about was manufactured in 1996. I'm not sure if they were being built with lesser quality parts as were the Pre 80' models? In my book, the NOS older the better.

When you say, Jeep Special Equipment, I'm assuming it being one's made especially for Jeep by Warn? Thanks for the info.
 
I have been parting these out on Ebay and selling reproduction parts for awhile. There are few differences in the BOM's for the internals across all years. Keyed vs splined motor gear? Puck vs disc brake? Solenoid vs contactor (late models)? The design improved as years went on. People always say there were better made parts in the 70-80's compared to the ones in the 90's, but I have not seen any significant wear improvements and few break unless abused.


To me, the significance in the date code would be for someone trying to match it to the vehicle for period correctness.


And yes. The ones with the Jeep Special Equipment decal. Dealer installed option.
 

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I bought this 'New/Old' late 80's vintage 8274 (complete in shipping box with factory mount plate) back in 2006:





I paid $800 for it back then. Sold the mount for $60 because I went with a custom front bumper:



Warn has steadily improved the 8274 series, but a lot of the basic parts are still interchangeable.



I also picked up this clunker last summer for $450:



This one is torn down for a complete rebuild:



Hope to get it done this winter. It will get bolted on a portable mount:



 
To me, the significance in the date code would be for someone trying to match it to the vehicle for period correctness.

And yes. The ones with the Jeep Special Equipment decal. Dealer installed option.
This.

SE is worth more. NOS from the 70's would be higher IF you find the right buyer, but I wouldn't think $2K high. More like $1500ish.

CJ'ers DO pay more for the early style 4 pin remote and plug style, but other than that and/or matching up the date code, it's just another 8274. A NEW one so definitely worth $$$$, but not neccesarily collectable unless you find someone wanting a specific date code who happens to be willing to spend extra to get it.
 
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Okay, here it is in the original box.



It was manufactured in December 1978.



It's funny, the original rubber band around the spool is still in tact.



I wonder if someone were to turn in the warranty card with a letter to warn, if they would register the warranty. Not that I feel it would ever be necessary.





So... What's it worth? My buddy, say's he thinks he paid $800 or $900 for it in 78'. Does anyone know if that sounds right? I want to be fair, but would like to get it for around $1000. Am I being fair?
 
I would say you would be getting a very, very good deal at $1K. I saw a used, but minty early 8274 (it did have a plate with it) for $1200 a few days ago on another forum that sold quickly.

He could probably get more for it, but how much more, I have no idea. You''re not stealing it at $1k, but you might want to give him a little lube.
 
As I stated on the OPs other thread, I would not settle for anything less than $1500 for this winch, if it were mine.

The new ones go for $1850, and many guys feel the old ones are better. So.....

Anyway, if you get it for $1000, consider yourself lucky. Some may consider you a thief. ;)

Matt
 
No idea on original cost. Given that a CJ cost $5K or so back then, I'd have a hard time believing someone would pay that much for just a winch, but then again winch prices haven't really changed much in 20 years. Warns now cost what they did in the 90's, so they may have been (comparitively) more expensive back then.
 
I would pay 1800 for it... the date code would be correct for my late 77 Levi cj7..
I think it's worth that I like anything SE
 
I don't think its SE, but Its worth what someone will pay if they care about the date code. A pic of the data tag would be nice. I would not be a buyer @ $1500 but definitely $1000. Be sure to service the winch before you put it in use. I would change the shaft seal, drum seal and 37 year old oil. In parting these out the worst ones I see are the ones that sit. The gears have a tendency to rust together due to lack of lube (its only lubed when the gears are turning).


Get it home and be proud.


Here is the first one I restored. With new seals, brake kit, solenoids, mount and lights I am into it about $900.
 

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I don't think its SE, but Its worth what someone will pay if they care about the date code. A pic of the data tag would be nice. I would not be a buyer @ $1500 but definitely $1000. Be sure to service the winch before you put it in use. I would change the shaft seal, drum seal and 37 year old oil. In parting these out the worst ones I see are the ones that sit. The gears have a tendency to rust together due to lack of lube (its only lubed when the gears are turning).

Get it home and be proud.

Here is the first one I restored. With new seals, brake kit, solenoids, mount and lights I am into it about $900.
It's not Special Edition. He said he bought it with ambitions of getting a jeep someday and it never happened. He was logging out of Forks, WA. and was probably making pretty good money. This area was really booming in the 70's with logging and fishing. The winch just got stuck in storage, and occasionally he would think about putting it on whatever he had at the time. But he never did. When we were talking one day about my jeep build, and I mentioned some day I wanted to get a 8274, since that's what my Dad had, and I really wanted one. When he told me the story, I knew I had to have it. After I explained to him about deciphering the date code, he came in the next day and told me it had the chrome switch cover and the code was L E 8. I have not looked at it personally, but so far everything he has said has been spot on. We still haven't came to a price, but I've been completely straight up with everything the Guy's on the forum have said. I think he'll give me a good deal. Whatever the price, I'm going to get it. He said I could make payments to him. I'm not needing it for another year yet, and obviously, he's in no hurry to do anything with it. Thanks for the when I get it service advise. BTW, your jeep and winch look great:thumbsup:
 
It's not Special Edition. He said he bought it with ambitions of getting a jeep someday and it never happened. He was logging out of Forks, WA. and was probably making pretty good money. This area was really booming in the 70's with logging and fishing. The winch just got stuck in storage, and occasionally he would think about putting it on whatever he had at the time. But he never did. When we were talking one day about my jeep build, and I mentioned some day I wanted to get a 8274, since that's what my Dad had, and I really wanted one. When he told me the story, I knew I had to have it. After I explained to him about deciphering the date code, he came in the next day and told me it had the chrome switch cover and the code was L E 8. I have not looked at it personally, but so far everything he has said has been spot on. We still haven't came to a price, but I've been completely straight up with everything the Guy's on the forum have said. I think he'll give me a good deal. Whatever the price, I'm going to get it. He said I could make payments to him. I'm not needing it for another year yet, and obviously, he's in no hurry to do anything with it. Thanks for the when I get it service advise. BTW, your jeep and winch

Even if it's not a SE 8274 it's a great find and always looks and functions great on any jeep cj enjoy !!!
 
Joe West makes a spot on reproduction of the Jeep SE winch decal you could stick on there if you wanted. They aren't cheap, but they look exactly like the original.
 
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