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Where to safely put my jack stands to lift all 4 wheels off the ground?

23K views 31 replies 12 participants last post by  CarlJH  
#1 ·
All,

Searched and what I am seeing seems unsafe for jackstands. Says to put them on the frame, but I would be surprised to find a jackstand wide enough for the frame. Frame is 4" wide, jackstands are 3.5"

Any thoughts or pictures would be helpful.

Below is what I am finding.

https://www.cherokeeforum.com/how-tos/a/jeep-grand-cherokee-1999-2004-how-to-jack-up-your-car-397785

Here is what the service manual says.
LIFT POINTS
STANDARD PROCEDURE - HOISTING AND
JACKING RECOMMENDATIONS
FLOOR JACK
When properly positioned, a floor jack can be used
to lift a WJ vehicle (Fig. 7). Support the vehicle in
the raised position with jack stands at the front and
rear ends of the frame rails.
CAUTION: Do not attempt to lift a vehicle with a
floor jack positioned under:
² An axle tube.
² Aluminum differential.
² A body side sill.
² A steering linkage component.
² A drive shaft.
² The engine or transmission oil pan.
² The fuel tank.
² A front suspension arm.
HOIST
A vehicle can be lifted with:
² A single-post, frame-contact hoist.
² A twin-post, chassis hoist.
² A ramp-type, drive-on hoist.
NOTE: When a frame-contact type hoist is used,
verify that the lifting pads are positioned properly
(Fig. 7).
WARNING: THE HOISTING AND JACK LIFTING
POINTS PROVIDED ARE FOR A COMPLETE VEHICLE.
WHEN A CHASSIS OR DRIVETRAIN COMPONENT
IS REMOVED FROM A VEHICLE, THE
CENTER OF GRAVITY IS ALTERED MAKING SOME
HOISTING CONDITIONS UNSTABLE. PROPERLY
SUPPORT OR SECURE VEHICLE TO HOISTING
DEVICE WHEN THESE CONDITIONS EXIST.

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#2 ·
I always put the jack and a piece of 4x4 lumber under the axle (where the control arm mounts are) and Jack it up as high as I can (I have a high lift floor jack).

Then I position my jackstands at the appropriate place on the frame rails (shown in your diagram) and drop the Jeep on the stands there. You need the extra height because the wheels will drop (extend).

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#3 ·
Says to put them on the frame, but I would be surprised to find a jackstand wide enough for the frame
The jackstands don't *need* to be the same width as the frame rail.

I'd put them as indicated below - the front ones on the frame rail just aft of the front LCA mounting points, and the rear ones in the equivalent place just forward of the rear LCA mounting points.

I've never had all four wheels off the ground at once, but those are the points I use for my jackstands when I've got either the front or the rear jacked up. They're also the same points that would be used by a workshop hoist (as indicated on the diagram).

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#5 ·
i would never ever,ever, get near/under a car on 4 stands. risk your life!!!
do one end at a time. for years i used big strong wood blocks.no shift or wiggle
 
#6 ·
Giving me pause... how do you replace the transmission filters without putting it up on 4 wheels?

I could drive it up on ramps and lift the back I suppose. Only lifting 2 wheels makes me nervous about it rolling. How do you rotate tires?
 
#7 ·
Good Lord..... I've had mine off the ground on jack stands for weeks at a time and crawled under it 100's of times! YES u can lift it like the diagram OR u can lift it on the differential and place the jack stands on the axle tube close to the wheels.
This is not Brain Surgery, it's a freaking jeep!!!
 
#9 ·
I have used the points AVR2 specified. But typically when I need to lift the whole jeep it's to do a tire rotation so I place jack stands under the front axle and just lift the rear by the differential...I know, I know. I have but one set of stands these days and I'm not under the thing in this configuration.