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Tips & tricks: replace your water pump

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#1 ·
This is for 4.0L engine only:

A couple of days ago I learned something while working on my WJ (replacing the water pump). I have some great tips & tricks for you:

1) the service manual says that you can replace the water pump without having to remove the radiator and other parts. Well, it's possible to do that but I hate to bend over and trying to unscrew the water pump bolts (my back often hurts while bending over). So, I went a different route: remove the front bumper/grille, inside "grille" (a black skeleton-like grille behind the grille), headlights, cross-brace and finally...the radiator. Of course, I had to drain the coolant first, in a clean 5 gallon container so I can reuse it. Removing the radiator is pretty easy. After the radiator is removed, you can replace the water pump pretty easy!!!

2) When you are trying to remove the viscous fan, you'll notice the water pump pulley (attached to the viscous fan) is impossible to hold while trying to loosen the fan clutch. I bought a special tool, it is called "Locking Chain Clamp." It's available at Harbor Freight for $10 (you can get it for less if you can find a 20% or 25% coupon). See the picture. It's the EASIEST way to "hold" the water pump pulley with that tool while loosen the fan clutch nut. When you stand in the front of your Jeep, you need to hold the locking chain clamp with your right hand while pulling the fan clutch wrench with your left hand. Pull the wrench to left (to unscrew the fan clutch nut from the water pump). The nut will become loosen pretty easy. No need to hit the nut with a hammer or anything like that.

3) I bought a brand new Mopar water pump for my Jeep. Yes, some people out there would tell me "but it came with plastic impleller". That is true, it did come with a plastic impleller. Keep in mind, the Mopar water pump is expected to last about 45,000 - 50,000 miles (the first water pump I had it in my Jeep). The non-Mopar water pump was installed in my Jeep and it lasted only 15,000 miles (the second pump). It was installed by an independent shop. For the 3rd water pump, I've decided to do that by myself, I went with Mopar water pump. It'll give me a peace of mind knowing that I won't have any trouble with it for the next 45,000 miles or so. I've considered Flowkooler water pump, but I found out that it is actually a GMP brand water pump (cheap brand). FlowKooler installed a metal disc (riveted) to GMP-brand water pump impeller. Well, I do believe that Mopar parts are better made parts over cheap non-Mopar brand parts. You can't go wrong with any Mopar parts. For example, I've researched on the JeepForum, some people went with non-Mopar radiator and they were having some issues with overheating. Non-Mopar radiator have smaller (or thinner) cores. Mopar radiator have the right size of cores and it'll help to keep the coolant temperature more stable and a tick (or two) under 210 degrees (my Jeep runs at 205-208 degrees). Non-Mopar thermostat isn't a good to have for your Jeep. Go with Mopar brand thermostat and you won't have any trouble with your Jeep's coolant system.

4) The 4.0L engine coolant system doesn't have a bleeder valve to let the air gap out of its system. The best way is to squeeze the top radiator hose several times while the radiator filler neck is not covered with a cap. You will see air coming out while squeezing the hose. Do that several times while refilling the coolant system with 50/50 mix of antifreeze and distilled water. After you use your Jeep a several times in the next couple days, you need to check your coolant system again. When the engine is cold, open the radiator cap and you will see no coolant in there, you need to add more 50/50 antifreeze-distilled water in there, squeeze the top hose a few times and you'll be surprised that there are some air still trapped in the system.

5. While changing the water pump, ALWAYS replace the thermostat!!! Go with Mopar-brand thermostat. Also, it's a good idea to replace the radiator cap as well.

6. I was going to reuse the water pump bolts. One of the bolts head snapped while tighting the bolt. I immediately removed the water pump and the head-less bolt is there, screwed in the engine block. I was relieved to see that it is about 1/4 inch outside (not flushed or snapped INSIDE of the hole). I was able to remove it with a vise grip tool (no need to go with an extraction tool). I learned a lesson by not using the bolts. I went to the local auto parts store and bought brand new bolts. Here's my advice, you should buy brand new bolts for your new water pump. The old bolts are old, beaten-up, stressed by hot-cold engine temperature and probably stretched out. The water pump uses five bolts, one of them is a little longer (about 1 3/4 inches long). I couldn't find 1 3/4 inches long bolt, so I had to use the old bolt. The other four bolts are 1 1/4 inches, they can be found at the auto parts store. I use Dorman brand 5/16"-18 x 1 1/4" Hex Head Cap Screws. You should also include 5/16" washers. I had to go real easy on an old bolt. The bolts should be tighted at 30 ft/lbs.

Hope it helps!
 

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1) the service manual says that you can replace the water pump without having to remove the radiator and other parts. Well, it's possible to do that but I hate to bend over and trying to unscrew the water pump bolts (my back often hurts while bending over). So, I went a different route: remove the front bumper/grille, inside "grille" (a black skeleton-like grille behind the grille), headlights, cross-brace and finally...the radiator...
Seems like an awful lot of work to get the water pump out. You should have gobs of room without having to disassemble the front of your jeep. I'll agree though it definitely makes more room for easier removal!

4) The 4.0L engine coolant system doesn't have a bleeder valve to let the air gap out of its system. The best way is to squeeze the top radiator hose several times while the radiator filler neck is not covered with a cap. You will see air coming out while squeezing the hose. Do that several times while refilling the coolant system with 50/50 mix of antifreeze and distilled water. After you use your Jeep a several times in the next couple days, you need to check your coolant system again. When the engine is cold, open the radiator cap and you will see no coolant in there, you need to add more 50/50 antifreeze-distilled water in there, squeeze the top hose a few times and you'll be surprised that there are some air still trapped in the system.
When installing the thermostat, make sure the little breather hole is at the 12:00 position as well. The hole allows the air to escape. If it doesn't have a hole, I've heard of people drilling a tiny one towards the edge of the thermostat.

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3) I bought a brand new Mopar water pump for my Jeep...

5. While changing the water pump, ALWAYS replace the thermostat!!! Go with Mopar-brand thermostat. Also, it's a good idea to replace the radiator cap as well.

6....I went to the local auto parts store and bought brand new bolts. Here's my advice, you should buy brand new bolts for your new water pump. The old bolts are old, beaten-up, stressed by hot-cold engine temperature and probably stretched out....
If you bought all new 'stuff'...

1)...Of course, I had to drain the coolant first, in a clean 5 gallon container so I can reuse it.
...why did you reuse your coolant?

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That looks like it could be handy!

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#6 ·
Zack Brown :)))- It sounds like you have air stuck in the heater core. Try elevating the front of your jeep and idling for a while with the radiator cap removed.
 
#8 ·
I bet it's cold! We have a windchill of -5°F to -15°F tonight for Springfield. You may want to get that air out the cooling system today as I imagine it's about the same for you!

I haven't heard what's on the agenda this year per Columbia but I doubt we make it. I think that side of the family may be heading this direction...
 
#10 ·
Yup! You too!
 
#11 ·
On my 4.0 to keep the pulley tight while I loosened the fan clutch nut I drilled a 1/4 hole into the side of the water pump/fan pulley and stuck a 99 cent store screwdriver in the hole.

On the thermostat...as you mentioned get Mopar or if you get after-market make sure to drill a couple 1/8" holes in it for air bleeding - one at 12 and 6 o'clock positions ...for air bleeding/burping.

*I would start by bleeding/burping the air out by removing the temp sensor (on thermo housing) ...especially if your not sure the P.O. had put in an aftermarket thermostat (very good chance of this)..you'll have some coolant spray out of course but worth the mess than risking overheating your engine.

*The wrench size for the fan clutch is 1 & 7/16 or equivalent: 36mm (pricey wrench)

If anybody wants "my kit" for doing this (water pump replacement) I'll be glad to ship it to them...they of course pay round trip shipping...Paypal acct. required.
 
#13 ·
ChrisHager said:
Zack Brown :)))- It sounds like you have air stuck in the heater core. Try elevating the front of your jeep and idling for a while with the radiator cap removed.
Works perfect now. Thanks
 
#15 ·
I removed the upper radiator hose on my 4.0, and then had plenty of room to remove the old water pump, even with the radiator shroud still in place.

To remove the pulley, I merely used a second wrench to put a counter hold on an opposing bolt in the pulley. Set one of the sockets on 'OFF' and the other to 'ON'. Opposing directions. Had no problems at all. Was able to torque to spec during installation.


(To TheBoss: Nice drum kit. What kind? I'm an old Slingerland guy.)
 
#16 ·
I removed the upper radiator hose on my 4.0, and then had plenty of room to remove the old water pump, even with the radiator shroud still in place.

To remove the pulley, I merely used a second wrench to put a counter hold on an opposing bolt in the pulley. Set one of the sockets on 'OFF' and the other to 'ON'. Opposing directions. Had no problems at all. Was able to torque to spec during installation.

(To TheBoss: Nice drum kit. What kind? I'm an old Slingerland guy.)
That's an old photo of Bill Ward in action. I love the sound of those old Slingerlands as well. I'm currently using a DW collectors series.