[Chris @ GATR]

Dude, are you hitting the bottle? If you are an alignment tech, I am scared for your employment security. Here is my issue (same as pic on page 1). It has nothing to do with a trackbar issue. LOL!

Here is caster.

 

[80825]

push the long line to the right:thumbsup:

 

[Chris @ GATR]

Exactly, you would need to pivot it (or swivel it) back into alignment, not slide it left or right(which is what a trackbar does, right?).

 

[80825]

No you do need to slide it right. must lift kits have you drill a new hole for the trackbar. did you?

 

[Chris @ GATR]

Oh dear. Father forgive me! If you "slide" the axle right, it would still be misaligned with the front axle. One side of the axle needs to move forward, which I thought (until this menacing thread by an alignment tech for Jeep) would correct the Thrust Angle. Dude, you threw my current mental state for a loop. LOL!

 

[80825]

do a search (on here)for "thrust angle"

 

[Chris @ GATR]

I rest my case. Once again, are you SURE you do alignments? I think you are fibbing.

http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/showpost.php?p=3215570&postcount=3

 

[80825]

You need to go to the jeep parts house and buy a set of hexentric caster bolts for the lower control arms. When you have the alingment done, have them install those. You'll only gain a few derees of caster back, oh well. Hopefully your lift kit came with an adjustable track bar. If not, they will not be able to adjust rear thrust angle. Good luck

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[Chris @ GATR]

I still hold firm to the fact that a trackbar will not affect Thrust angle.

 

[80825]

you will know one of these days what a adj trackbar is for. good bye

 

[Chris @ GATR]

LOL! I know exactly what a trackbar is for. You and I or evidently on separate pages. No biggie.

 

[05fulltraction]

dude, chill!

Hello, you are having a thrust issue! Which in My terms means one side of your axle is further foward or backward than that of the other side, right! Measure center to center of the hubs on each side of the turd(JEEP), if your off more than 1/2 an inch than that turd has been mashed sometime! If you correct that with control arms, I hope it isn't out much because the adj. controll arms only have so much in and out movement! AND if it is off much, your turd WOULD drive squirelly! Ask me if I know allignments! A track bar is only gonna fix you from seeing your a** end of the jeep in the side mirror, which also means center your axle between the frame rails! Thrust fixes your axles perpindicular to the frame rails!:thumbsup: :rofl: :cheers:

 

[Chris @ GATR]

Me? Chill? LOL! You said exactly what I already said 2 pages back, but "LJRubicon" works as an alignment tech and still doesn't understand that!. Heaven help him!

 

[05fulltraction]

then what else are you asking? did you measure hub to hub to see if it might be off! Maybee both axles are off on the same side!? ned a good 4 wheel alighment machine!

 

[Chris @ GATR]

I have the alignment printout from my alignment appointment today that shows the TA degrees out, which is 2*

 

[05fulltraction]

wAS OUT FROM WHAT CORNER? WAS IT A FOUR WHEEL ALIGHNMENT, IF YOU DIDNT ASK FOR ONE THAN YOU MOST LIKELY DID NOT GET ONE! mOST PLACES WONT DO A 4 WHEEL ON A JEEP BECAUSE THERE IS NOTHING REALLY TO ADJUST OTHER THAN CONTROL ARM CAMS, AND IF i RECALL THE REARS ARENT ADJUST, UNLESS YOU PUT THEM IN THERE. NEED TO MEASURE HUB TO HUB(WHEELBASE)

 

[05fulltraction]

dO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ADJUSTABLE ? arms, trackbar?

 

[Chris @ GATR]

All 4 alignment sensors were used to check caster/camber/toe/thrust. There is no adjustment on the rear OEM CA's.

 

[Chris @ GATR]

dO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ADJUSTABLE ? arms, trackbar?

Not yet, hence part of the reason I created this thread.

 

[05fulltraction]

THRUST ANGLE


Definition: The angle between the thrust line and centerline. If the thrust line is to the right of the centerline, the angle is said to be positive. If the thrust line is to the left of center, the angle is negative. It is caused by rear wheel or axle misalignment and causes the steering to pull or lead to one side or the other. It is the primary cause of an off-center or crooked steering wheel. Correcting rear axle or toe alignment is necessary to eliminate the thrust angle. If that is not possible, using the thrust angle as a reference line for aligning front toe can restore center steering.


iF YOU HAD A 4 WHEEL ALIGHNMENT DONE YOU WOULD HAVE A PRINT OUT THAT SHOWS MEASURMENTS ON ALL 4 WHEELS!!!:thumbsup: :cheers2: