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Strong jerking when turning WK QDII. ABS/TCS lit up

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#1 ·
### Root cause: rear right ABS wheel speed sensor - see my other post in this thread ####

Just started an hour ago. Was driving and noticed the ABS light lit up. Went out and then came back on. I figured may be ABS sensor went.

Minutes later, was coming out of a parking spot and had to turn when I felt strong jerk. Decided to play it safe, drove home. At this point, lights are still lit (but no CEL) and can I reproduce the jerking reliably when going in a small circle. It feels like some kind of tension builds up somewhere (even sound changes) and then releases with a jerk and on.

No jerking when driving straight.

WK, Hemi, QDII. No oil. No smell. I did NOT do the N23 recall.

Come to think of it, it almost feels like the TC is stuck in 4 lo or something - that too, would skip on dry pavement ?

Since it feels like 100F outside, will troubleshoot some time later. Could use some help.
 
#2 ·
Qd2 just does the jerking thing on tight turns*. As to your light and the HARD jerking it sounds like an abs issue.

*my guess as to why the WK2 doesn't have a front elsd. Jeep got tired of dealing with people hating how the thing turned like Michael J. Fox.
 
#6 ·
Autozone scanner didnt show any codes - but it cant read Chrysler ABS.

Checked front wheel speed sensors - both read open one way, about 1.5M the other way. I guess these are Hall-effect sensors.

Had a helper look at the wheels as I slowly drove around in tight circle. It is definitely a rear wheel that somehow binds - either the brakes get activated on it, or something worse happens .What else could it be though, outside of rear diff ? Did check oil in rear diff - it is fine. I did replace all the fluids about 25K miles ago - remember using special LSD additives. Had dealership replace tranny fluid too.

Removed the ABS pump fuse and drove around - same symptoms. Now, if it was ABS somehow braking rear wheels, it shouldn't do that with ABS pump not getting any power.

Wish I could try the wheel clock spring theory.
 
#9 ·
Here is the root cause.

It was rear right ABS sensor.

I most highly recommend buying "BlueDriver" ODB reader on Amazon. $100, it communicates via Bluetooth to the "Torque" application on your phone. Worth its weight in gold as it does read vendor-specific codes , including Jeep's ABS

The replacement sensor is $20 on Amazon.

Here's how to properly test your sensors: your meter must be in "diode" position. The sensor should read about 1600 Oh one way and open circuit the other. Mine was 1600 Ohm one way and about 4K the other.

The sensor has diode in series with a coil - that's how you get the readings I described.

To replace rear sensor, remove rear wheel. No need to remove the rotor or brake calipers. Single bolt.

Mine was kind of stuck in there, took some WD40 and prying/turning to get it to come out. I cleaned the hole with some sandpaper and installed the new sensor. Pretty ez job.

While it did feel like differential binding and $10000 repair, $20 sensor is all you need to fix it.

While on it, do consider replacing both diffs and TC fluids, 30K is the interval. $5 fluid transfer pump at Harbor Freight is just the ticket to both suck the old fluid out (no drain plug on rear diff) and pump new one in.

Must use Chrysler LSD additive.

Jeep Grand Cherokee rear wheel ABS speed sensor replacement, violent jerking jerks lurches lurching when turning. Differential binding.