I would not run wires to the air vents. Run it behind the dash, to the floor, along the floor pan, and up the rollbar... any way you have to do it. It may take a while, but nothing beats a good wiring job.

 

Don't use HVAC ducts as conduits for any wiring, I would have thought you would have already learned your lesson after having burned your earlier wiring job up from doing that.

 

i wouldn't you've all ready had a problem with it once, why make the same mistake twice. its easier to do it right the first time then have to do it twice

 

Not sure about XM, but my Sirius gave me TONS of extra wire with it. There was more than enough to run it right and tuck it up under the dash. Just takes a few minutes to pop out parts and put em back. Do it right the first time...:thumbsup:

 

Thanks. I'm doing the install later today. I'll make it into a photo-documentary and post some pics.

 

DONT cut the antenna wire, its fiber optic and cant be repaired, new antenna is like $80 i think

 

i wish i never made that awful mistake. Now im hooked on country(it grew on me) cuz WOKQ is the only channle i get clear. My friends hate me now but i guess i deserve it...

 

Where in NH are you Wil228?

 

Don't use HVAC ducts as conduits for any wiring, I would have thought you would have already learned your lesson after having burned your earlier wiring job up from doing that.

Better advice.

Take it to a professional to install.

 

DONT cut the antenna wire, its fiber optic and cant be repaired, new antenna is like $80 i think

What kinda antenna you running?

 

DONT cut the antenna wire, its fiber optic and cant be repaired, new antenna is like $80 i think

Really? Is it solar powered?

 

What kinda antenna you running?

the XM antenna wire is a optic style read the book on it,

 

Really? Is it solar powered?

do you have any idea what your talking about? the satelite signal runs through fiber optic style wires just like your TV

 

Better advice.

Take it to a professional to install.

No way, he can handle it himself. :thumbsup:

 

No way, he can handle it himself. :thumbsup:

i find i always learn more after i screw something up anyway

 

do you have any idea what your talking about? the satelite signal runs through fiber optic style wires just like your TV

Apparently I don't. I was under the impression that the XM antenna used a metal-conductor, coax cable.

As far as my TV goes, I have s-video, composite, and coax cables.

What brand of antenna and receiver are you using? I'd love to learn more about it.

 

I'm curious as the where the solor powered comment came from

 

Apparently I don't. I was under the impression that the XM antenna used a metal-conductor, coax cable.

As far as my TV goes, I have s-video, composite, and coax cables.

What brand of antenna and receiver are you using? I'd love to learn more about it.

FM does but XM dont, and TV alot of cable companies including time warner and any company using all digital is a fiber optic cable. and i have the complete pioneer setup from radio to xm reciver to antenna

 

I can find no info on the antenna being fiber optic, but I would imagine it isn't, it's just too impractical.

First, fiber is very sensitive to bending. Second, converting a the digital stream from the air into light isn't a "free" conversion, so the antenna would have to be powered. Third, why would they do that, coax is more than capable, and a heck of a lot cheaper.

the satelite signal runs through fiber optic style wires just like your TV

Every single satellite installation I've done uses coax to hook up the receiver to the dish. Not once have I seen a fiber connection between these two.

FM does but XM dont, and TV alot of cable companies including time warner and any company using all digital is a fiber optic cable. and i have the complete pioneer setup from radio to xm reciver to antenna

I've got digital cable, and it's coax. I've also got DishTV, and it's coax too.

So, I'd really like to see the documentation saying that the antenna is connected to the receiver via a fiber link.

What equipment do you have? Specifically?

 

I can find no info on the antenna being fiber optic, but I would imagine it isn't, it's just too impractical.

First, fiber is very sensitive to bending. Second, converting a the digital stream from the air into light isn't a "free" conversion, so the antenna would have to be powered. Third, why would they do that, coax is more than capable, and a heck of a lot cheaper.

Every single satellite installation I've done uses coax to hook up the receiver to the dish. Not once have I seen a fiber connection between these two.

I've got digital cable, and it's coax. I've also got DishTV, and it's coax too.

So, I'd really like to see the documentation saying that the antenna is connected to the receiver via a fiber link.

i was told a fiber optic style, and i will see if i cant find directions where it said not to cut the wire,

 

TV alot of cable companies including time warner and any company using all digital is a fiber optic cable.

Fiber to the local hub near you, it's still coax into your cable box and then whatever piece out your TV supports. Even with HD, it's still coax into your cable box.

Fiber to the antenna is also unlikely, though it's not impractical.

First, fiber is very sensitive to bending. Second, converting a the digital stream from the air into light isn't a "free" conversion, so the antenna would have to be powered. Third, why would they do that, coax is more than capable, and a heck of a lot cheaper.

Point 2 is valid. Point 1, depends on the fiber they are using. Ever look at the optical cable you can use between your audio components in your home theater setup? You can pretty much bend those cables every which way. However, you shouldn't bend coax just the same as you change the noise properties. #3, same as #1, in that if you look at those fiber pieces for home audio, the prices have dropped significantly.

However, they could be using a powered antenna. It wouldn't take but a few volts, probably 5v to get it to work with that kind of setup. So inside the cable could be three lines. One optical, one a positive voltage, the other ground..

 

i was told a fiber optic style, and i will see if i cant find directions where it said not to cut the wire,

Just because it says not to cut the wire does not mean it's fiber. Hell, my Fishfinder instructions told me not to cut the transducer wire. It's just a standard coax cable, not fiber.

The reason they tell you not to cut the wire is that it takes special care to splice the cables back together WHILE reducing the introduction of interference. That's all....

 

Fiber to the local hub near you, it's still coax into your cable box and then whatever piece out your TV supports. Even with HD, it's still coax into your cable box.
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My point was, just because it's digital does not mean it has to be transmitted over fiber.

And I do not believe your comment (that was edited out) about the use of fiber to reduce interference. In the typical length required for in car installation, the use of high quality coax is just fine, and a lot cheaper than fiber.

 

And I do not believe your comment (that was edited out) about the use of fiber to reduce interference. In the typical length required for in car installation, the use of high quality coax is just fine, and a lot cheaper than fiber.

Yeah, I thought about that when I put it in there.. Which is why it's edited out :thumbsup:

 

So, we go from having a single coax cable from the antenna to the receiver to having 3, two power and one fiber.

What are they gaining by doing that? Have you ever priced a Fiber gbic? They aren't cheap, and you would essentially need two of them for this setup - one in the antenna and another in the receiver. Well, maybe not in the receiver, but you see my point. Why would they do that when coax is highly capable?