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ROUGH IDLE AND RUNNING AFTER WARM UP! Please Help!

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#1 ·
2000 Jeep Grand Cherokee 4.7 v8 has a problem that makes the Jeep idle rough and run bad like it is missing or starved of fuel or something.

On a cold start, where the car has been sat for some time the car will crank and start straight away without any problem. It will rev up on start and settle down as normal. You can rev the engine hard and it is smooth as it should be and you can drive it as normal.

But, (and here is the problem) once the engine starts to warm up a bit and the temperature needle starts to climb (gauge says 40) the revs suddenly drop off to around 500 from around 800 and the engine starts to tick over rough and run rough. Revving the engine hard doesn't clear it.

Once the engine has cooled, if I start it again it will do the same thing, run well until it started to warm and then run rough.

I've taken the throttle body off and cleaned it out, I've removed and cleaned the Idle air motor and throttle position sensor so far. No code.

Please help!
 
#3 ·
No, i have not changed TPS and IAC. I cleaned both when rebuild the engine.

I also noticed after driving a while, and stop, the idle is kind of stable a lot. but after idle for a while, (in 5 minutes) i see the oil pressure dropped down towards left(pass middle mark), then the idle is getting a bit rough again. Maybe i should put some good engine oil? The oil i am using is some cheap oil 5w30 for the first run of the rebuild engine. Planned to change it in 500 miles maybe, just to wash out some dirt first.

I doubt maybe the lifter is not working that good due to the oil? (All hydro lifters are brand new when rebuild)i can hear some clicking noise from the passenger side upper half of the engine. Could this cause the lifter/valve sticky in cold start after warm up?
 
#10 ·
I just replaced my head gaskets, as well as my heater core, radiator, water pump, TPS, spark plugs, ignition coils, power steering pump, AC drier and condenser, and a few other little things. Anyways, I heard that because the computer has been disconnected for a while it reset all of its values on mixtures and throttle and other magic I should probably learn more about. After starting my engine it ran beautifully around 700 RPM, then after about 5 minutes it would rough idle, then at one point it even went as low as 150RPM(Whole Jeep was shaking) but it picked itself back up and seemed to 'learn' from it..
 
#11 ·
joe12473 said:
I just replaced my head gaskets, as well as my heater core, radiator, water pump, TPS, spark plugs, ignition coils, power steering pump, AC drier and condenser, and a few other little things. Anyways, I heard that because the computer has been disconnected for a while it reset all of its values on mixtures and throttle and other magic I should probably learn more about. After starting my engine it ran beautifully around 700 RPM, then after about 5 minutes it would rough idle, then at one point it even went as low as 150RPM(Whole Jeep was shaking) but it picked itself back up and seemed to 'learn' from it..
Those are adaptive parameters that the PCM learns. Like idle air control step position for various hot and cold starts. And long term fuel trims. Though the fuel trims update pretty quick the IAC step positions take longer to learn.