Dorman makes an aluminum one. Even though it is Chinese, it’s better than plastic POS that your Jeep left the factory with.

Unless it is warranty work or something to do with software or flashing a computer, avoid dealership service departments. They are happy to service you alright, as in bend you over. Not all are like that, but most are.

Replacing the oil cooler is not that difficult but it is very time consuming.

I get free oil changes for life on my 2014 JKU. The damn thing cracked during one of the oil changes and thet said nothing. When I left I noticed the burnt oil smell but dismissed it as a sloppy job. Then it started leaving a small puddle of oil at my house. I went to the dealer and told them about it. Shortly after they told me the oil cooler was cracked and it would be $800 to fix it. I spoke calmly but firmly. When I was done speaking the service writer was crying and I said I am sorry. The manager of the dealership ended up telling them to fix it and not charge me.

Even though it sucked they didn’t tell me it cracked and didn’t own up to it initially, I still thought it was good of them to Fo the right thing at the end of the day. That’s probably the Best dealership experience I have had and is definitely the exception, not the rule.

My opinion of that great dealership has drastically changed within the last year or so. High turnover caused by Covid crap and labor shortages changed that dealership service department into an example of exactly how not to run a business. They are too short sighted to realize that bad service experience will cause me to buy a replacement Jeep elsewhere when the time comes. I just had my oil changed last week. I started ti ask about the ticking coming from my engine but was rudely interrupted by the service writer loudly saying there is no recall when I hadn’t even finished my sentence. After the oil change, a different service writer comes to kiss my *** and explain how important it is I give them a good rating on the survey. **** them.

 

Dorman makes an aluminum one. Even though it is Chinese, it’s better than plastic POS that your Jeep left the factory with.

Unless it is warranty work or something to do with software or flashing a computer, avoid dealership service departments. They are happy to service you alright, as in bend you over. Not all are like that, but most are.

Replacing the oil cooler is not that difficult but it is very time consuming.

I get free oil changes for life on my 2014 JKU. The damn thing cracked during one of the oil changes and thet said nothing. When I left I noticed the burnt oil smell but dismissed it as a sloppy job. Then it started leaving a small puddle of oil at my house. I went to the dealer and told them about it. Shortly after they told me the oil cooler was cracked and it would be $800 to fix it. I spoke calmly but firmly. When I was done speaking the service writer was crying and I said I am sorry. The manager of the dealership ended up telling them to fix it and not charge me.

Even though it sucked they didn’t tell me it cracked and didn’t own up to it initially, I still thought it was good of them to Fo the right thing at the end of the day. That’s probably the Best dealership experience I have had and is definitely the exception, not the rule.

My opinion of that great dealership has drastically changed within the last year or so. High turnover caused by Covid crap and labor shortages changed that dealership service department into an example of exactly how not to run a business. They are too short sighted to realize that bad service experience will cause me to buy a replacement Jeep elsewhere when the time comes. I just had my oil changed last week. I started ti ask about the ticking coming from my engine but was rudely interrupted by the service writer loudly saying there is no recall when I hadn’t even finished my sentence. After the oil change, a different service writer comes to kiss my * and explain how important it is I give them a good rating on the survey. ** them.

Yep I do it myself and 6 packs got Dorman I thought was made In USA Pennsylvania next state of course high tech. Not going to change oil the new young guy 90to 85% form plastic to tied . Plus is Mercedes design Chrysler bought soon new fiat Mini Cooper design. I found radiator have small leak in corner too so I order cold case aluminum
And rear rotors pads due so I am upgrading to Rt crown front rears set I bought all form forum vendor my good friend kolak in same time doing my sparks plug cleaning injector all service debating on sparks brand now what to get. Thanks for ur write and time sharing ur experience.
Ps: I found out changing O ring with the new Dorman to napa blue one will be Beefer and better.

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Yea it is the way of many things today.

How bad is the tick , how long?

Oil cooler . You can get a all alloy one no more plastic for 170 bucks on line. I would not bother with stock. it is the same part that failed to start with. Funny too, that Dorman part i will bet is made in china or somewhere near. Make you wonder where jeep gets that 500 dollar plastic one? Some where worse then China is Chain that much better? Seems Jeep should just change the part source there, cost less and its a cast alloy. Same for the thermostat assembly, its two part and plastic. cap part is known to split. Dorman makes that as well in alloy. If they would do the cross over. would solve all those issue.

But looks like the roller rocker issue is the 800 pound gorilla in the room. To me if things like cam lob get ground down by roller rockers that have failed from the roller bearings turn to dust. It is done since how do you remove all the metal from the pin rollers the shaft of the pin and the lobes? THat would be like rebuilding a engine and not bother cleaning the block.

They charge people i have read hear and other forums people spending from 2.5-4.5K dollars. Just to replace top end parts<should be sent to a reman factory. 3.6 repop is like 5-6k I bet the book time to swap is less then to tear it down in the jeeps top end and open that can of worms.

 

Yea it is the way of many things today.

How bad is the tick , how long?

Oil cooler . You can get a all alloy one no more plastic for 170 bucks on line. I would not bother with stock. it is the same part that failed to start with. Funny too, that Dorman part i will bet is made in china or somewhere near. Make you wonder where jeep gets that 500 dollar plastic one? Some where worse then China is Chain that much better? Seems Jeep should just change the part source there, cost less and its a cast alloy. Same for the thermostat assembly, its two part and plastic. cap part is known to split. Dorman makes that as well in alloy. If they would do the cross over. would solve all those issue.

But looks like the roller rocker issue is the 800 pound gorilla in the room. To me if things like cam lob get ground down by roller rockers that have failed from the roller bearings turn to dust. It is done since how do you remove all the metal from the pin rollers the shaft of the pin and the lobes? THat would be like rebuilding a engine and not bother cleaning the block.

They charge people i have read hear and other forums people spending from 2.5-4.5K dollars. Just to replace top end partsQUOTE]

Hey doc I hear you got order alll parts from famous good dude kolak performance new Pennsylvania Dorman with napa O ring blue one. New cold case radiator and RT crown set font rear and call it a day with six packs Christmas brew. But debating for spark plugs on brand now. Probably Cleveland brand Autolite iridium xp 5701.


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if I ever do plugs would be the same ones they put in it, assuming they are available, nothing fancy. unless it blows a oil cooler it wont see 100k ever wont ever need plugs the miles the jeeps sees.

 

Week after This post change all went smooth no code none. But again drip drop one on belly after long investigation found this inside trans vent hole I am guessing now is real main seal or upper oil pan gasket

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If you don't see any oil seeping out of the side of the pan prior to the bellhousing then I'd say its the rear main, and I see plenty of them go bad it's common on the 3.6. If you can get a borescope up there or get a better peak, look around the sides of the flexplate, it's a one piece rear main, and I usually see them leak around the edges and run down onto the pan, rather then leaking at the crankshaft seal (but I've seen both).

 

 

Just replaced mine with a unit from Amazon for just under $100. It included both the Oil Pressure Sensor and Temperature Sensor. It is all metal and looks like good quality. It was packed quite well for such a good price. It has a slightly different footprint and a little tricky to get into...

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You may get oil drips for a while after doing an oil cooler. It is extremely difficult to get rid of all of the oil in the galley around where the oil cooler sits. It you have only one drip which is the way I read it, I would drive it a while and see if it stops.

 

Been driving for 2 weeks now is less than a one drop only by the vent hole next to it little

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Yep. That still can be residual oil from the galley under the intake around the oil cooler.

Did you do the cooler yourself or hire it done?

There are a lot of nooks and crannies around the oil cooler that sit much lower than the path that the oil leaks out the back near the trans. I use a sucker to pump that oil out when I do one. I try to soak up stuff with rags also. It is impossible to get it all out though. Some is very low lying. Inertia can keep it coming out for a while. If your leak is only a drop like you say, wait it out. There is no telling how well it was cleaned up. Even if you did the repair yourself and cleaned out the intake galley to where it was spotless (which I reiterate is next to impossible) there is still the path through the bellhousing, etc. that you could never clean because you did not disassemble it.

Honestly. Keep on driving and monitoring it.

 

Thanks for the info hope u right crossing my finger I did it myself used shop vac and towels I cleaned as much I could honestly I keep driving thanks again for ur positive feed


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If a dealer Techie doesn't back-up a fitting set in plastic when loosening or tightening, then the twisting of the metal fitting in plastic will or can compromise the connection w/ the plastic causing problematic leaking.
I don't know how many times I've had the chevy dealers tell me I have a transmission line fitting issue after I've paid them $400 smackers for a Trans Fluid Flush. Hmm _ _ worries me.

Also, if I'm getting lifetime oil changes, the dealer will get his $$$ out of me one way or another.
Or, possibly due to improper procedures, the tech's will make sure they create (from inexperience) problems.
I've witnessed a young techie use a 1/2" breaker bar to screw-in a tapered oil plug on a rear axle assembly, and if I had not stopped him, he would have screwed the plug into the carrier. omg.

Now, after reading this Cooler thread, I'm gonna crawl under my JK and have a Look.

 

If a dealer Techie doesn't back-up a fitting set in plastic when loosening or tightening, then the twisting of the metal fitting in plastic will or can compromise the connection w/ the plastic causing problematic leaking.
I don't know how many times I've had the chevy dealers tell me I have a transmission line fitting issue after I've paid them $400 smackers for a Trans Fluid Flush. Hmm _ _ worries me.

Also, if I'm getting lifetime oil changes, the dealer will get his $$$ out of me one way or another.
Or, possibly due to improper procedures, the tech's will make sure they create (from inexperience) problems.
I've witnessed a young techie use a 1/2" breaker bar to screw-in a tapered oil plug on a rear axle assembly, and if I had not stopped him, he would have screwed the plug into the carrier. omg.

Now, after reading this Cooler thread, I'm gonna crawl under my JK and have a Look.

I know that image young techie smiling welcoming me in and smiling when I am leaving too. I guess all they have same signature


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