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I would imagine some of y’all know something about custom type builds…

on Sunday I’ll be looking at a dune buggy on a VW pan.

Chatting with the owner it has not been registered on the street for 30 years.

It is close to street legal if it doesn’t already qualify.

I am not certain but do not believe the title reflects the dune buggy conversion.

I reside in New Mexico so I’m looking at the legalities as much as I can online.

What would be the pitfalls of jumping in and just bringing her home if I intend to use her mostly as a street legal commuter?

the owner does believe it is made from a 60’s vw so I will not have emissions headaches.

My biggest worry would be if I could not register it as a 60’s model and would have to register it as a new 2024 build.

an even bigger worry is I’ll jump in and do something stoopid and take it home anyway without listening to good advice.

I am well versed in VW-ese so that part doesn’t scare me.

I’m also researching insurance

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I would imagine some of y’all know something about custom type builds…

on Sunday I’ll be looking at a dune buggy on a VW pan.

Chatting with the owner it has not been registered on the street for 30 years.

It is close to street legal if it doesn’t already qualify.

I am not certain but do not believe the title reflects the dune buggy conversion.

I reside in New Mexico so I’m looking at the legalities as much as I can online.

What would be the pitfalls of jumping in and just bringing her home if I intend to use her mostly as a street legal commuter?

the owner does believe it is made from a 60’s vw so I will not have emissions headaches.

My biggest worry would be if I could not register it as a 60’s model and would have to register it as a new 2024 build.

an even bigger worry is I’ll jump in and do something stoopid and take it home anyway without listening to good advice.

I am well versed in VW-ese so that part doesn’t scare me.

I’m also researching insurance

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I recommend calling your local Dept of Motor Vehicles since they will do any required inspections and licensing.
 
What state of are you in? Some of these guys are, some clowns with registering stuff. Does the block have a S/N or the frame? Did you buy it with a title? That helps. My last one had 8 champs on it and 4 different plate numbers so it wasn’t too hard to look up the history on it. Painted pearl white. That’s been years though and it was Mississippi who are conservatives
 
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I would imagine some of y’all know something about custom type builds…

on Sunday I’ll be looking at a dune buggy on a VW pan.

Chatting with the owner it has not been registered on the street for 30 years.

It is close to street legal if it doesn’t already qualify.

I am not certain but do not believe the title reflects the dune buggy conversion.

I reside in New Mexico so I’m looking at the legalities as much as I can online.

What would be the pitfalls of jumping in and just bringing her home if I intend to use her mostly as a street legal commuter?

the owner does believe it is made from a 60’s vw so I will not have emissions headaches.

My biggest worry would be if I could not register it as a 60’s model and would have to register it as a new 2024 build.

an even bigger worry is I’ll jump in and do something stoopid and take it home anyway without listening to good advice.

I am well versed in VW-ese so that part doesn’t scare me.

I’m also researching insurance

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If it was registered 30 years ago, it has a title. Down load a bill of sale, get the title signed over to you, Drive it to MVD Express get the title transferred to you and get it registered. Have fun. That simple.
 
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There would be a vin on the transmission tunnel on the pan. The body ones would be gone.

Normally in this state if it has an in state title they just transfer the title.

out of state needs a vin inspection

Since I’m unsure if the title shows it as a stock VW or as the buggy that’s where the grey area is.
 
There would be a vin on the transmission tunnel on the pan. The body ones would be gone.

Normally in this state if it has an in state title they just transfer the title.

out of state needs a vin inspection

Since I’m unsure if the title shows it as a stock VW or as the buggy that’s where the grey area is.
Where is it? Where was it last titled? Even if it was out of state, then you can schedule the VIN inspection with NM DMV online, or take it to the state police for a NCIC check. Look up MVD form 10705, 10003v7.25.22v2

If it has not been in the system for over 10 years a vin inspection and bill of sale are all you need. If there is no vin or title, then a you need to look up NM MVD home built autos and get the titling process.
 
even bigger worry is I’ll jump in and do something stoopid and take it home anyway without listening to good advice
That’s what I’d do post haste!
Is there any type of VIN on it?
Sometimes people moved the vin to the framehead.

See if there’s a prior registration plate or bill of sale… then you have a track record.
I have bought (unknowingly) aircooled VW’s and Jeeps that were stolen or car loan “skips” before. VW’s and Jeeps seem to be frequent in the ‘shady acquisition’ games.
Does the block have a S/N or the frame?
First off, it CAN’T likely be newer than 1979 if USA marketed. But post 71 (super beetle) few were done up as Meyer’s or whatever copycats. Further, if it’s a swing-axle not an IRS transaxle then it 68 or prior. If it’s swing axle with portals then it’s a (iirc) 1971 or prior Type 2 (bus) drivetrain but the front axle if struts is a superbeetle and if links is a pre-super beetle probs 1971 or older.
You CAN go through a process of getting a bonded title. I don’t know how communistic Muse Mexico I mean New Mexico is.
There would be a vin on the transmission tunnel on the pan. The body ones would be gone
Right! I thought it was the frame head. I knew this stuff. Once upon a time.
then a you need to look up NM MVD home built autos and get the titling process
but Cruela’s morally upright and kind sister alluded to that requiring current emmision requirements? But that sounds silly and ignorant. It’s a freaking Beetle pan, and I think even Mexico (the country) hasn’t made any in thirty years (though Brazil or somebody did to the mid-2000’s I think?).

That car is cool. Doesn’t cue up in my head as a meyers though; but even Jc Whitney usedta sell the fragileglass bodies.
 
That’s what I’d do post haste!
Sometimes people moved the vin to the framehead.

See if there’s a prior registration plate or bill of sale… then you have a track record.
I have bought (unknowingly) aircooled VW’s and Jeeps that were stolen or car loan “skips” before. VW’s and Jeeps seem to be frequent in the ‘shady acquisition’ games.
First off, it CAN’T likely be newer than 1979 if USA marketed. But post 71 (super beetle) few were done up as Meyer’s or whatever copycats. Further, if it’s a swing-axle not an IRS transaxle then it 68 or prior. If it’s swing axle with portals then it’s a (iirc) 1971 or prior Type 2 (bus) drivetrain but the front axle if struts is a superbeetle and if links is a pre-super beetle probs 1971 or older.
You CAN go through a process of getting a bonded title. I don’t know how communistic Muse Mexico I mean New Mexico is.
Right! I thought it was the frame head. I knew this stuff. Once upon a time. but Cruela’s morally upright and kind sister alluded to that requiring current emmision requirements? But that sounds silly and ignorant. It’s a freaking Beetle pan, and I think even Mexico (the country) hasn’t made any in thirty years (though Brazil or somebody did to the mid-2000’s I think?).

That car is cool. Doesn’t cue up in my head as a meyers though; but even Jc Whitney usedta sell the fragileglass bodies.
The wide 5 pattern on the wheels is the 60's. My 71 super beetle sitting outside my door has the 4 bolt style wheels.
Product Fitment for the wide 5 pattern
  • 1954-1967 Beetle
  • 1956-1966 Karmann Ghia
  • 1955-1970 Type 2
  • 1962-1965 Type 3
  • 1973-974 Thing
I thought I read or saw and episode on MT tv that meyers manx was selling new kits again as there was a high demand. The 60 bugs don't require emissions testing, too old. Heck you don't need seat belts depending on the year, they did not have them. My 64 ghia did not have them, wish it did, but oops.

OOPH! Your Shopping Cart i threw one together.. don't tell the owner. does not look like a meyers though.
 
Funny story
We bought ours in 1972. It a reg for a 1958 VW. Didn’t think to check if the serial # on the reg matched the one on the trans tunnel.
Needed numerous repairs including a whole wiring harness which I installed myself including running grounds to the frame for the lights etc. I was only 17 then just learning how to fix things…There was a VW serial # but it didn’t match the # on the reg. What must have happened was the owner had several old VWs and gave us the reg for the wrong one. Noticed the disparity by buying parts using the VW serial #. VW dealer said that’s not a ‘58 it’s a ‘56! So when I finally went to DMV it took hrs to get it registered. They had to check all the DMV records to make sure my serial # didn’t come up as stolen! Remember no computers in the 70s so it took hours. But did get a valid reg for it….
 
Was about 8 years ago or so a friend and I were in Moab. They day we went to Hells gate and the area there was a vw similar baya bug. when we came to the bottom of the HG. he was just getting ready to ascend it. 2x4 it did have some power. do not think it was a stock engine. dual carbs ect.. Right at the base he goes FULL WOT. and literally smoked tires all the way up and flew up it faster then i have ever seen anyone do this. If you know the trails the head wall at the top is kind a steep. I thought for sure he would lift the front end but that thing squatted and shyt and get it. So we all go up and on to the Escalator and there he is again staging at the bottom....same thing full wot, smoken tires and flies up that like a go cart...Impressive for a 2x4....But it is moab, people have ran Crown Vics too Bug is better. Take that same baja to Fordyce it wont go so well. some huge boulders in there and speed tends to break stuff apart.....
 
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Ask them to meet you at a local PD substation for a NCIC check and see if they respond, or ask them a bunch of questions about the engine, trans, title, etc... and see if they respond. If they don't then there is a problem or it is a scam. Is there any info about it? Have they given you any response to any questions or agreed to meet you?

Looks almost too green for ABQ in the background.
 
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