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Have a jeep jk that wont start, the dealership has changed the starter twice, replaced the ignition switch, tipm, and just replaced the pcm, same outcome the jeep starts only half the time, the other half the starter kicks out for some reason. I have a 4" lift kit, 37" tires, ripp supercharger, anyone else having the same problem?
 
If you have a auto tranny some people have been reporting that the shifter doesnt quite make it to Park and that will cause it not to start...Does it make any noises? is the starter even turning it over? I take it you have checked the battery already correct?
 
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yes ive checked all conections, the starter starts to engage then shuts down, sometimes you can shift to drive then back to park and it will start, dealership says it cant be neutral safty switch because it tryes to engage the cuts off, i read other post of same problems , never say if they ever got it figured out, all post were from last year,
 
anyone found a answer, I have 07 with same problem. Install new starter last week, but did not fix the problem. Please reply if anyone know how to fix. Very aggrevating to have to cross your fingers each time you try to start your jeep.
 
When it fails to start in Park try starting it in Neutral.
 
And if this works I would take it to the dealer and have them replace the safety switch or whatever it is thats fouling out... I have heard so many guys have this problem. You should not have to do this to a 3 or so year old vehicle.
Agreed. I've read about a number of people with this problem - it's happened to me once so far. If you have an automatic, your battery is good, it clicks when you try to start in Park, you shift to Neutral and it starts, then it helps to narrow down the possibilities. It seems the Transmission Range Sensor (TRS), a grounding problem, the Transmission Control Module (TCM), Remote Control Module (WCM), or Totally Integrated Power Module (TIPM). :S I was hoping that Chrysler would figure out the "solution" and issue a TSB because I don't want them to just replace random parts until it appears to be fixed.

From what I've read, if you have this problem, then putting it in Neutral will get it to start almost all of the time. Sometimes you may have to shift back to Park and try again, and one person said he had to do this back and forth thing for half an hour before he got it to start.
 
I've had this problem from the start. Within two weeks of buying it new, the problem surfaced. We have had it for over a year now and the problem has not been solved. We have had battery cables replaced, starter replaced, sensors replaced and nothing has fixed it. I had a remote starter added and that will start it, even if the key will not. This has been a god send. Since the jeep is a DD, it puts a great hardship on me and my family when I have to take it in and leave it. I have had to go to the dealership way to much for a new vehicle.
 
I've had this problem from the start. Within two weeks of buying it new, the problem surfaced. We have had it for over a year now and the problem has not been solved. We have had battery cables replaced, starter replaced, sensors replaced and nothing has fixed it. I had a remote starter added and that will start it, even if the key will not. This has been a god send. Since the jeep is a DD, it puts a great hardship on me and my family when I have to take it in and leave it. I have had to go to the dealership way to much for a new vehicle.
You have an automatic and it just clicks when you try to start in Park? If it doesn't click, and you have keyless entry, there is a TSB out for that problem, see here.

If it does click, but doesn't start, try putting it in Neutral and see if that gets it to start. If it does, then it's a different problem. I'm still guessing it's the TRS because it looks like it acts like a Neutral Safety Switch. The FSM says that "The Transmission Range Sensor (TRS) communicates shift lever position (SLP) to the TCM as a combination of open and closed switches. Each shift lever position has an assigned combination of switch states (open/closed) that the TCM receives from four sense circuits. The TCM interprets this information and determines the appropriate transmission gear position and shift schedule." So if the TRS is sending false information to the TCM when it's in Park then it won't start.
 
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Thanks, but sadly this sensor issue was taken care of either the 3rd or 4th time it was in for the no-start problem... This actually worked the longest of any of the fixes. Probably 8-10 weeks for that particular fix. I actually started having less anxiety over whether or not it was going to start...LOL

The stealership is grasping at straws now. 2 weeks ago when I had it in, they replaced the TIPM/Power Distribution Center. I have now once again had the no start issue, 8 times in the last 2 weeks or so... No rhyme or reason to it. Sometimes its a cold start, sometimes not. There is no click, throttle light comes on and there is no attempt at actual starting. But, it will start with the remote starter. Go figure... The electronics guy at the stealership told me Friday that my jeep and a couple of others he deals with constantly are giving him nightmares. I told him I can relate. :(

You have an automatic and it just clicks when you try to start in Park? If it doesn't click, and you have keyless entry, there is a TSB out for that problem, see here.

If it does click, but doesn't start, try putting it in Neutral and see if that gets it to start. If it does, then it's a different problem. I'm still guessing it's the TRS because it looks like it acts like a Neutral Safety Switch. The FSM says that "The Transmission Range Sensor (TRS) communicates shift lever position (SLP) to the TCM as a combination of open and closed switches. Each shift lever position has an assigned combination of switch states (open/closed) that the TCM receives from four sense circuits. The TCM interprets this information and determines the appropriate transmission gear position and shift schedule." So if the TRS is sending false information to the TCM when it's in Park then it won't start.
 
Thanks, but sadly this sensor issue was taken care of either the 3rd or 4th time it was in for the no-start problem... This actually worked the longest of any of the fixes. Probably 8-10 weeks for that particular fix. I actually started having less anxiety over whether or not it was going to start...LOL

The stealership is grasping at straws now. 2 weeks ago when I had it in, they replaced the TIPM/Power Distribution Center. I have now once again had the no start issue, 8 times in the last 2 weeks or so... No rhyme or reason to it. Sometimes its a cold start, sometimes not. There is no click, throttle light comes on and there is no attempt at actual starting. But, it will start with the remote starter. Go figure... The electronics guy at the stealership told me Friday that my jeep and a couple of others he deals with constantly are giving him nightmares. I told him I can relate. :(
Looks like you have some other kind of problem. :( Well, if they ever figure it out hopefully you can post what was wrong. Good luck!
 
For the automatic:

If it won't start in Park, but does start in Neutral, it could be as simple as adjusting the transmission selector lever cable.
Could be, but if it was off then wouldn't it be off for every selection? OTOH - It could be that it just doesn't sit in Park properly. OTOOH - I would also think that if the cable was off it would "always" not work in Park, unless it's just barely off. :confused:

The FSM says: "Check adjustment by starting the engine in PARK and NEUTRAL. Adjustment is CORRECT if the engine starts only in these positions. Adjustment is INCORRECT if the engine starts in one but not both positions. If the engine starts in any position other than PARK or NEUTRAL, or if the engine will not start at all, the TRS may be faulty."
 
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I have apparently jinxed myself today by posting to this thread. It has not started all day without the remote start.:mad: Forgot to mention the MIL also stays on with the Throttle indicator.
 
I have apparently jinxed myself today by posting to this thread. It has not started all day without the remote start.:mad: Forgot to mention the MIL also stays on with the Throttle indicator.
Maybe they didn't do the TSB properly or the module they replaced was defective? You could try pulling the IOD fuse the next time it doesn't start. From the TSB: take the key out of the ignition, pull the IOD fuse, wait 30 seconds, put the fuse back in, try to start with the key again (See the TSB). Doesn't look like it should hurt, but I suppose it could make it so the remote stops working too. :confused:
 
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I believe i have found the fix to the jeep non start issue, dealership replaced every part possible with no sucess,They have worked on it aprox two months. my jeep would not start almost every time, im in the 12 volt business, so we started to change some of the wiring , after the fix i performed on my jeep, it has started every time without any problems for two days, the one touch start even works again, i have started the jeep aprox 80 times after the fix without any problems, hopefull in a few days i can post what i did to fix the problem, just want to make sure the problem dosent come back, dont want to give out bad info
 
i've been having the same issues!! when i try to start it clicks then nothing.. my check engine light would come on as well as the ETC (electronic throttle something) a little lightening bolt.. has anyone had that happen?? my mech says its from the intergrated power module and that it has to be replaced. but its on back order so we dont know when we'll get it replaced.

@stereoman - whats the news?? any updates??
 
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This is what fixed mine, go to your local auto parts store and buy a 4 ga ground wire long enough to go from the neg of your battery to the bolt on top of your alternator, this is probly the easiest way we found to ground the engine better, it has been over two weeks and mine has started every time!!!!!
 
I have the same problem from time to time also. Starter was replaced along with the battery. I believe that was done for nothing because. It seems to be a problem on automatics only according to what i have read in the past. If it happens to me now and just clicks and not start, all I do is either bump the shift lever towards park or even move the shift lever to neutral and then back to park. As long as i firmly put it into park I do not have a problem and it will start right up.
 
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My jeep did exactly the same thing, neutral to park and it would start, so the dealership replaces every cable and sensor and it still did the same thing, push it into park and it would start, so they bypassed the sensors still nothing, the next step was to have chrysler tech come to try. once i grounded the engine with the 4 ga cable it hasnt done it again,
 
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