It can be done correctly if you know how.
Well of course it can be done if u know how.....but asking if u still need a sway bar shows it will be difficult for him to grasp the concepts of doin it correctly.....like I said not being mean but u should play with a 4 link calc and see what all goes into doing it correctly
Did you mean like instead of unlike?
When talking about 4-link rears and their well-known trait of introducing extra body roll that needs to be dealt with, the last thing a 4-link calc will show you is to what degree extra stiffness will be required. Springs, shocks, sway bars AND suspension geometry dictate one's Roll Center Height.
Do you understand how the front and rear sway bars work together? If so, you probably wouldn't be making this statement.
I used to say things like this, and like you I haven't had a rear sway bar for years and years now, I have never felt a problem, I have no body roll, I can corner and maneuver as well as anything else I drive. People here seem to have real trouble driving without one and don't really understand how it is we don't.
Sway bars are designed to eliminate body roll and balance the handling of a vehicle. If your roll axis is completely neutral and body roll is acceptable, you don't need any sway bars at all.Ironhead said:
so what you are stating is that a stock TJ has a neutral roll axis? I was looking for the stock specs on the 4 link calc, but couldnt find them. i dont believe that the stock setup has a neutral roll axis though
I'm aware of how those factors interact. I have a nearly neutral roll axis (slight understeer bias) and have spent a lot of time and money on dialing my sway bars in. What about when your axles are both articulated? What's going on with your frame/tub with no or only one sway bar?
How about the guys that used to run one (and none at one point) and, once they dug into the science of it all, will only run two? If you want to use feel alone as the basis for an argument, the sensory input from having two opposing bars in real-world situations is far superior to only having one crappy one....and you can't even argue with how the two compare in the classroom.
