I've had my 2dr TJ white Rubicon since 2006 and love it! I get a lot of compliments on it. I may be trading it in for a 4dr JKU white Rubicon with mods; to me, a jeep is 2 drs...period, end of discussion. I know there are die hards like me...but i really could use the extra room for kids, camping, hunting, etc. To you other die hards, what do you think? The JKUs do look pretty sick when mods are made...JKU Rubi looks "ok" at best the way it comes from factory...seems like JKUs really do need lifts/wheels because of long wheel base......
JK vs JKU
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Wasn't the Jeep brand surviving without the 4 door for 65 years? My bad...
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And I'm not saying it was a bad idea, just not right for me. But opinions are like ***holes, everyone has got one.
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I went from a 2002 TJ to a 2010 JKU last August (because of a new family addition). Best decision ever! Plenty of room for the family. I do not need to strap the stroller to the trail rack like on the TJ. When my carseat was in, my wife's legs were up against the dash. I can fold down the seats when I take my son camping and sleep in the back. I can also tow my boat instead of using the wife's Grand Cherokee. There are pro's and con's for both. For me, the JKU was the right choice.
I don't think anyone has brought this up yet, but the way I see it, the JKU replaced the WJ and the JK replaced the TJ. The new Cherokees don't have solid axles any more, and Jeep has always had a 2 door vehicle with solid axles and a 4 door vehicle with solid axles.
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In my opinion, you are missing the point.
Organize the threads by views. The the lifted 4-door thread has 522,918 views. The lifted 2-door thread has 311,739 views. More people are interested in 4-doors. Clearly the 4-door is successful and it also improved the sustainability of the brand. Further, with more sales comes more funding for R&D and lower prices for the consumer. It's a good thing even for a guy who likes two doors.
If you think I don't drive a wrangler because it has 2 more doors, that's cool with me, and the majority of guys who drive Jeeps. You're hanging on to an idea. Let it go.
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Yep, I upgraded from an XJ to a JKUR and haven't looked back.
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If one drove a 2-door XJ was he or she not a purist? And, did you know the XJ was made in China from 1984-2005? I thought that was crazy.
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Haha, I drove a '98 4 door and never looked down on the 2 doors, loved them all.
I had no idea the XJ was made in China, that is crazy!
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Wow, this thread has changed a bit since my original posting....looks like I'm trading in my 2dr TJ Rubi for a 4dr JKU Rubi with mods....but given that the new Pentastar is slated for the 2012, I suppose everyone would agree that I should wait till Sept (or whenever) and get the 2012 instead of buying 2011 in June...
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Uh which 65 years are you talking about? Jeep has been purchased by bigger companies MULTIPLE times. I dont see companies buying Ford or GM... they are "Surviving" where Jeep was rebuilt.
Wish I would of taken pics to show you but who has time to take pics when your having fun. Some of the trails I run on, the lifted 4 doors always manage to get high centered on obsticles my non-lifted 2 door managed with no issue, not to mention I can pass more gas pumps than a 4 door.cbloyer81 said:
Besides that, I've seen both on the trails and isn't much of a difference in the advantages and disadvantages. I think the four door is an awesome edition to the Jeep lineup because its now made Jeeping available to people with families.
Btw, If your going to show me that stupid a video of 4 door making a steep climb and 2 door flipping over backwards on the same climb to prove a 4 door is better, don't even bother. I've seen that video and the 2 door driver wasn't even approaching that obsticle correctly.
To sum it up, a 2 door can get anywhere a 4 door and visa versa. So put that thing back in your britches and grow up...sheesh...this as bad as..."mines bigger"..."no! mines bigger"
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Wasn't the Jeep brand surviving without the 4 door for 65 years? My bad...
Actually No it wasn't... If it was surviving, they never would have designed, built and produced Millions of other 4x4 vehicles out producing CJ and Wrangler variants at something like 4:1.
Actually No it wasn't... If it was surviving, they never would have designed, built and produced Millions of other 4x4 vehicles out producing CJ and Wrangler variants at something like 4:1.
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Jeep has been purchased several times sure, but that just shows the viability of the brand and how people want it because it holds part of the market no other brand can touch (Bronco failed, scout died, zuki is gone, etc)
The Wrangler and CJ variants made enough money, that's why up until this point they were the only Jeeps truly associated with the name. Ask 9 out of 10 people what they think of when you say Jeep and it's the iconic 2 door wrangler (not starting anything here, just saying). Recently Jeep expanded its market vastly to try and make more money like we all would like to, shame on those capitalists :thumbdown:
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This question has been answered several different ways already, so I will go another route -
If any of you are directly involved with/employed by the auto industry today, you know that it is a far cry from what it was only 5-10 years ago, let alone 65 years ago. It's a new day with a heavily educated consumer; single, independant, powerful working women; and the number of different makes, let alone models, readily available in todays market is faaaar greater than it ever has been.
Do what you will with that information and how you think it might shape the future of any given automaker/brand.
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Never debated this fact. Notice I said in an earlier post I applaud Chrysler for doing what they have, the models like the Patriot and JKU have all done well and that is why they have changed so little in the time they have been out. I'm just saying without the 2 door, there would have been no Jeep. PERIOD.
You know what they say about guys who have the biggest trucks right?
For those that think Jeep should never have strayed off the 2dr model just need to look at Saab to get an idea of where Jeep would be if they didnt experiment more with different models and looks.
As noted the auto world has vastly changed the past 5-10 years and dont think that another manufacturer would create something similar to a Jeep should the brand have gone under.
Cherokee, Grand Cherokee, Wrangler, Wrangler Unlimited are the meat and potatoes of the brand for now.
Im not a big Compass or Patriot fan (one but not both), but they can expand Jeeps influence in other markets that hopefully draw them to the core models.
I love my JKU and would not have a Jeep unless this was offered.
As noted the auto world has vastly changed the past 5-10 years and dont think that another manufacturer would create something similar to a Jeep should the brand have gone under.
Cherokee, Grand Cherokee, Wrangler, Wrangler Unlimited are the meat and potatoes of the brand for now.
Im not a big Compass or Patriot fan (one but not both), but they can expand Jeeps influence in other markets that hopefully draw them to the core models.
I love my JKU and would not have a Jeep unless this was offered.
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I agree...Jeep has always been known as the ultimate 4-wheel drive convertible and is iconic because it has always had 2 DOORS!!! This is why I hate trading in my 2dr TJ for JKU because I maintain the same mentality.
A 2dr jeep is like a go-cart on crack & steroids...it maneuvers wherever you want it to , up and around anything!!!
BUT...we think this way because the 4drs haven't been out long enough to establish themselves. In another 5-10 yrs, I doubt this argument will even exist! Shoot, the way jeep sales are going, we may see a HUGE decline in 2dr production...never will be done away with I don't think....nevertheless, I will get a JKU cause it makes sense at this time in my life....
Again I ask....when is the 2012 going to be released...is the new Pentstar engine worth waiting for?
A 2dr jeep is like a go-cart on crack & steroids...it maneuvers wherever you want it to , up and around anything!!!
BUT...we think this way because the 4drs haven't been out long enough to establish themselves. In another 5-10 yrs, I doubt this argument will even exist! Shoot, the way jeep sales are going, we may see a HUGE decline in 2dr production...never will be done away with I don't think....nevertheless, I will get a JKU cause it makes sense at this time in my life....
Again I ask....when is the 2012 going to be released...is the new Pentstar engine worth waiting for?
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