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So the aftermarket flares on my '92 are in bad shape & I picked up an OEM set. The PO bolted the flares on, but the heads of many of the bolts are partially or fully inside the cut out and I can't seem to get anything on it; sockets or needle-nose vice grips. The picture is one of the less deeply inset bolts. Some are fully inside the cutout.
 

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Thin wall socket
 

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Or....

Are they plastic or steel? Hard to tell by the photo.

If you have a Dremel, there are certain grinding heads that would be able to make quick work of enlarging those holes if not even a thin walled socket will get to them.

If they are plastic, I'd slit it and rip them off lol. That would give you ample space to get at those bolts
 

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They are metal. Hadn’t considered a dremel and, honestly, I’ve never even heard of a thin wall socket, but you can bet I’m picking some up.
 

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Thin wall socket? (Edit to add, already mentioned above.)
 

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My 1/4" dr air ratchet and ANY 10MM socket that I have that fits it along with a little controlled aggression from the hands of a career dude...... These are really easy..... and yes..... I still prefer air to electrical tools for most things around a car. I really do. Kinda off topic but one of these fits in tight places, is very quiet and is stronger than electric for a lot less money. I prefer it too my $750 dollar electric Snap-on piece of crap.

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My 1/4" dr air ratchet and ANY 10MM socket that I have that fits it along with a little controlled aggression from the hands of a career dude...... These are really easy..... and yes..... I still prefer air to electrical tools for most things around a car. I really do.
I really thought this was going to be a 45 minute project until I found these buried guys. When I poke around online, the only thin wall sockets I see are impact sockets. I don't need all that. I imagine they'll come out easy if I can get anything on them.
 

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Ive had to get a cheap socket and grind it down before to fit in some tight spots. Put it on a drill and spin it as your grind, works like a charm.
 

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Look at your 1/4 drive socket set. Most of those are fairly thin. Sacrificing a socket to the grinder is good too.
 

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Add large diameter washers before the head of the bolts and put them back on. MOre surface area, should let them sink into the plastic fender as much
 

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+1 on making a thin wall socket on a grinder. BTDT.

And a +1 on more air tools than electric for working on vehicles and stuff. I have 12 air tools mounted in a circle and held vertically in female air hose fittings on a piece of 3/4 marine plywood. And one cordless drill.

Picking up impact sockets to get a thin wall may not be a bad idea as work on the Jeep later may reveal a need for impact driving. DAMHIK.
 

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+1 on making a thin wall socket on a grinder. BTDT.

And a +1 on more air tools than electric for working on vehicles and stuff. I have 12 air tools mounted in a circle and held vertically in female air hose fittings on a piece of 3/4 marine plywood. And one cordless drill.

Picking up impact sockets to get a thin wall may not be a bad idea as work on the Jeep later may reveal a need for impact driving. DAMHIK.
OP- All of the ideas posted so far should work for removing these bolts. You could also try cutting a slot for a straight blade screwdriver into the bolt head.

Mark- Does your round plywood spin so up you can select the tool of choice? I'm trying to understand your pneumatic tool storage idea, can post a picture? I'm always open to creating better ways to organize & save space.
 

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Add large diameter washers before the head of the bolts and put them back on. MOre surface area, should let them sink into the plastic fender as much
This was my plan to avoid a headache like this in the future.
 

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+1 on making a thin wall socket on a grinder. BTDT.

And a +1 on more air tools than electric for working on vehicles and stuff. I have 12 air tools mounted in a circle and held vertically in female air hose fittings on a piece of 3/4 marine plywood. And one cordless drill.

Picking up impact sockets to get a thin wall may not be a bad idea as work on the Jeep later may reveal a need for impact driving. DAMHIK.
I have impact sockets, but I can't imagine a thin wall impact is thinner than a 1/4" drive standard socket.
 

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OP- All of the ideas posted so far should work for removing these bolts. You could also try cutting a slot for a straight blade screwdriver into the bolt head.

Mark- Does your round plywood spin so up you can select the tool of choice? I'm trying to understand your pneumatic tool storage idea, can post a picture? I'm always open to creating better ways to organize & save space.
I'll post up a pic in a bit. It's basically a square sitting on the work bench and has a circle cut out from the center from when I was making a jig for changing the tubeless tires on the Ducatis I used to have.

Sorry for thread drift.
 

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I was mistaken, it's 1/2 inch ply. And I couldn't pick it up with the tools on it to get a better shot - too heavy. I took a couple of tools off for a better view.



Another example of how I like to hang on to scraps and find a use for them eventually.
 

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I was mistaken, it's 1/2 inch ply. And I couldn't pick it up with the tools on it to get a better shot - too heavy. I took a couple of tools off for a better view.



Another example of how I like to hang on to scraps and find a use for them eventually.
I have a piece of aluminum angle iron that runs down the side of my tool cart. It has holes drilled that are just big enough for the air fittings to drop down in. It holds my tools upright in a row and does not require me unsnapping the coupler to get my tool out. I was not sure if it would work well at first but have used it for probably 20 years.
 

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Since I first mentioned them, I looked around for thin wall socket sets. Didn't really find what I remember from olden days. They would be 12 point, because that allows the thinnest wall. And almost everything I found had "impact" in the name. Exactly NOT what you want.

I suspect the "lifetime warranty" that everything seems to carry these days has caused the thin wall design to be abandoned. The thin wall that I remember were almost a sacrificial kind of socket. So thin that you knew you were likely to split it if you used it for anything really tight. No one would want to sell such a thing these days. I have 1/2" sockets that definitely would work on that bolt in your picture above, and they are not even really thin wall. Just regular 12 point 3/8 drive sockets.
 
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