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So Im posting this as a Poison Spyder Customs Jeep Build Off sort of thing. Recently won the set of their BRAND NEW DeFender Flares. In doing so I also purchased rear crusher corners with the 3" DeFeneder flares on them, BFH front bumper, Rock Knockers w/ Sliders... Along the way there were many other add ons but we shall start when it began. If any Questions on install feel free to ask away.

I'll Try and add pros and cons in as well, also a walk through of the jeep build as an entire.!

But first lets start with the DeFenders install!

Having Smittybuilt Flatties already on the vehicle there was no extra cutting required. I realized in doing this that the SB Flatties make you cut 2-3" EXTRA inches of your inner fender well out just to fit them in. Where the sleek design of the DeFenders keeps the cutting to a minimal. :2thumbsup:

Picture 1 is the basic Phase 1 of this build. starting with a 6" procomp short arm lift 37x14.5x15 toyos SB XRC front bumper, SB tube steps, SB rear swing carrier, and SB flatties. from here only magic will happen!

1st step of the install is removal, like i said already having flatties removal was a breeze. step 2 removing the fender supports on both the passenger and driver side was confusing at first but after some thought made sense. the only things removed was the battery,2 inner fender brackets, and 1 vacuum hose connected to the inner fender and the hood latched; Thats it!

after removal of some dirt mud sand dust and all other entities not supposed to be in the jeep it was time for install.. I DEFINITELY recommend loosening the front body mount for easy adjustment as well as the supports going to the front nose to the fire wall. just makes the fine tuning and adjustment so0o0o much easier. James Kha and I found out the hard way haha.

In a few pictures you can see how the DeFenders ADD 3" of wheel well to the rear portion on the tires, which is great when wheeling and stuffing tires!

Install of the battery trey bracket was a snap, using all the preexisting hardware. the fenders fit like gloves against the fire wall and the top of the 'whats left of' fender. i do recommend having another person around to help fa-ness the front and rear fender at the same time to get the perfect fit you will be looking for. putting the hood latch in the front to hold in place you can use this as a line up for mock up. then the 4 firewall bolts then you can bolt up with EASE having the cut out in the side panel.

once all the bolts are in it was time to tighten up and align all the body lines together. All in all it was an easy process in swapping out flares. total time with 3 Guys (THANKS TO KHA AND JAMES!) was just about 2 hrs. 1 hr off and cleaning and another hours on and fa-ness. 1-10 on the install on difficulty (10 hard) a 4.5? maybe 3?.. was not bad at all, but like i said before i did already have my fenders cut from the SB flatties. (used a cut off wheel with air tool):thumbsup:
 

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In these you can see just how much MORE i had to cut to fit the SB fenders. OUCH:fear:

sorry for foggy pictures!
 

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Like I said for that started the whole turnover in this build. from here you will see all the other great applications and modifications from Poison Spyder Customs.

PROS:

Extra wheel well clearance!
No edge rubs on tires when fullly stuffed!
Light weight (Aluminum!!)
Ease to install!
Great customer service at the PSC compound!
Lined up PERFECT with Rock Knockers
Did I mention extra wheel well clearance!?!?

CONS:

I powder coated all my hardware, in doing so the counter sunk bolts didn't sit completely flush in the countersunk holes
In powder coating these I stripped out 1 stainless steel bolt head on the flat surface where the hood covers
I didn't have these a year ago! haha
 

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Looks like there is a bit of a fittment issue where the hood and the upper edge of the fender meet????, looks like quite a gap there....
Yes, that was a picture of the install of the SB Flatties, if you look closer at the fenders you can see that i didn't have the latches connected for the hood to bold down to. the Smitty built Flatties didn't have those holes "pre drilled" i had to drill from the underneath to make sure they lined up! :confused:

on the Poison Spyder DeFenders the hood latch holes ARE provided which means no drilling on the DeFenders is necessary :2thumbsup:
 

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How bout back where the cowl and tub meet,,,, looks like the fender drops off that line quite a bit,,, could be an optical delusion maybe??? :0)...
could be an optical delusion yes, or as the say "the angles".. :) The DeFenders do have rolled edged from the top to side panel which will give it more of a shadow. All curves no points. Could have come up a tad in the rear maybe, but i'll let it ride:2thumbsup:
 

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How bout back where the cowl and tub meet,,,, looks like the fender drops off that line quite a bit,,, could be an optical delusion maybe??? :0)...
yeah i see it too, he should have loosened the bolts to the tub and pulled it up and tightened them back, but now that the other stuff has been mounted i dont thing it can be fixed.

looks good thought, how did you win them?
 

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could be an optical delusion yes, or as the say "the angles".. :) The DeFenders do have rolled edged from the top to side panel which will give it more of a shadow. All curves no points. Could have come up a tad in the rear maybe, but i'll let it ride:2thumbsup:
They look good, I'll be getting a set soon!!!!:thumbsup:
 

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Poison Spyder Customs just came out with there new DeFender Flares for the TJ/LJ they selected 5 Jeeps from around the US to receive there flares for free from submitted application forms, in constellation I posted this thread on the install to aid/help/inform others on them. Pretty sweet! Love the company.
 

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Once the DeFenders were installed it was onto the Crusher Corners and Rock Knockers. everything lined up great with one another! which is great when buying piece by piece. in installing the Crusher Corners i also did away with the square tail lights and went to the 24 LED tail lights, and moved my tag to the spare tire rack. Had SB tube side armor and hacked them off! welded :Frown: but nothing a torch grinder mini disks and paint gun cant fix!
 

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Fl sucks... there are no rocks, hills, or clay... we have to make our own down here haha.
 

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FYI use a 4.5 hole saw for the LED lights. A fine jig saw does not work like a dream. at all. ever. it was a task in a half.. just wanted to add that in there. because I don't wish that upon anyone!
 

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So I haven't had much time for any add ons to the Jeep but there is a definite HUGE drive train upgrade incoming with new suspension. Just a reminder: This is my daily driver, so for the most part I have no 2nd option for a vehical to use durring down time. Also an Engineering student at UNF so time is short bethween school and work.
I just ordered a 5.5 X Factor Long Arm kit from Rock Krawler Suspension. There customer service was awesome! Jeremy is the bomb. Been looking into axles and think I've decided on a 60 front with a 14 bolt rear end. 1 tons may seem like much now, but I'm planing for the future. if I go 40's I'd want to be ready rather then getting 44's and have to swap all over again.

Axles front and rear have 4.88 gears and a new Detroit in rear. (personal friend seen with my own eyes). With the Rock Krawler kit old perches are cut off while new rear cross members are wended on. I feel it would be a 1000 times easier to do the axle swap with suspension swap (short arm to long arm) in 1 shot..

any thoughts?
 

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Not so much a build but was in the parade down here in FL figured it was in the spirit of the holidays haha i had to!
 

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Jeeps been feeling sluggish lately, figured id giver her some new candy parts for the motor with a new TPS and IAC. purrs like a kitten. also finally put the vinyls behind the Poison Spyder Rock Knockers today

and yes its dirty in there
 

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Previously posted was a question about the gap on the pass side fender. it was erking me (my OCD) but its fixed now. just wanted to say thanks for noticing. its always nice to get 2nd opinions and another eye on some things.. wish I checked, double checked, and rechecked the 1st time tho. :confused:

also had some silver in the diff fluid. tore down the front end to inspect, everything came out ok. I'm led to believe its just from the install of the new locker and some wear form me beating the piss out of it. so i changed the shafts anyways lol

1st one is of the before shot of the gap.. I ended moving it up about 1/4 of an inch. has a curved lip to it so still looks low but I SWEAR its right with the body line!

and the last is a Detroit Tru Trac locker:2thumbsup:
 

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