I wondered the same thing when I seen this.JeepN4KC said:
Omelet's Build Thread (aka The Bison)!
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That's right, I am FINALLY making my build thread! I have been modding this Jeep for three years now so I have a lot of catching up to do. Just bare with me, because this is going to take some time to get through. I will start from the beginning and try not to miss anything. :2thumbsup:
It all started in 2004 when I saw the beast that AEV and SuperLift made.
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Not only did it look awesome, but it boasted some incredible performance. A Jeep Grand Cherokee with QDII coupled to a HEMI! I had to have it! Unfortunately, being a lowly military man also trying to support a family I could not afford a $45K vehicle, let along the $5K+ for the lift tires and other goodies.
Finally after the market took a crap in late 08 the time had come! I started looking around and pricing the different models and option. By then the CRD had also come out which I wanted more than the Hemi, but I could not find one in Cali :thumbdown: I found a few in other states, but they were too far away and more than I could afford. So I ended up scoring a 2005 Limited with every option available that year and 40K miles for $16K! It seemed no one wanted to buy a big Hemi powered vehicle at that time, so local dealers were pricing them very low. Even a year after I bought it I couldn't find a better deal :thumbsup:
This was the day I brought it home!
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Yes it is dirty because I insisted on swinging by a trail on the way home to test out 4lo! I wanted to make sure the t-case and ELSDs were working properly.
In fact the first mod I made was to remove the front air dam before I hit the trail.
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Below is a list of mods I have performed. Click on the mod and it will take you straight to it. This should help with the confusion of trying to find what you are looking for :2thumbsup:
-Volant CAI
-MBRP Exhaust
-LED Taillights
-Aries Taillight Guards
-OME MD Lift with 255/75/17 BFG MT tires on Moabs
-HIDs in the Lows and Fogs
-4xGuard Front Skid
-4xGuard Matrix
-Chrome Grill Slats
-Rear Hitch Mod to clear a New 255/75/17 MT
-4xGuard Rear Skid
-Midland CB in the Cubby
-HM Engineering Chromoly UCAs
-Stillen Rotors
-ARB High Output Compressor and Tank Plumbing Pics
-285/70/17 BFG KM2 Tires
-Rear Fender Mod
-JKS Quicker Disconnects (Front)
-4xGuard 12 Bolt Diff Cover
-Grooved the KM2s
-Painted Side View Mirror Covers
-Taylor Shorties
-BT Catch Can
-Fastman Trottle Body
-1.5" Rear Coil Spacers
-Rusty's Extended Rear Sway Bar Links
-Rusty's Strut Spacers (Stacking Two of Them)
-Firestik 3' CB Antenna on a Saguaro Mount Installed a Stainless Spring
-4xGuard Belly Skid
-4xGuard Sliders
-295/70/17 Nitto Trail Grapplers
-OME HD Coils
-Bump Stop Extensions (Front)
-Painted the Matrix and Front Skid
-SuperLift Rear Shocks
-Rear Brake Line Extensions and Fuel Tank Notch
-JKS Quicker Disconnects (Rear)
-Rusty's Adjustable Track Bar
-Bumpstop Extensions (Rear)
-Rigid Industries D2s
-Refurbished My Hi-Lift Jack
-Fox 2.0 11" Remote Reservoir Shocks
-Saguaro Switch Panel
-Gobi Stealth Roof Rack
-Hidden Winch
-Painted My Moabs (Set #1)
-LED Switchbacks
-LED Rock Lights
-MOPAR Badge
-Limiting Straps (Front)
-Rigid Industries 20" E-Series
-Painted My Washer Fluid Bottle
-Cargo Area LED Strip Mod
-Bedlined Rear Step
-08+ HID Projector Headlamps
-Ouch Band-Aid!
-Over Head Switch Panel
-Bedlined Rockers
-ORT Wheel Decals
-BT Under Hood Kit - Completed Kit
-ASFIR Front and T-Case skids
-Steel Armadillo Sliders
-Armor Weights
-WeatherTech Floor Mats
-ORT8 Badges
-10" Stainless Steel Antenna
-7 Watt Cree Reverse Bulbs - Night Pics
-Billet Low Pro Door Locks - Instal Pics - Low Pro OEM Locks
-Throttle Body Grounding Wire
-Fumoto Engine Oil Plug
-35x12.50R17 BFG KR Tires - Instal Pics
-MOD Status
-Expanded Sheet Metal Grill
-Mopar Fuel Tank Door
-Painted My Moabs (Set#2)
-Painted Caliper Covers (Rear)
-SuperLift Instal
-Mopar Stripes
-Modified SuperLift Steering Stops
-Front and Rear View Camera System
-Staun Tyre Deflators
-Tough Light 42" Black Series - Night Shots
-BullyDog WatchDog
-KC LED Utility Light
-Painted Side View Mirrors
-Front Bumper Trim
-New Laser Etched Switch Cover
-Pillar Pod
-Insulated The Intake again
-Brightt USA 19" LED bar
-AFE Pro Dry Filter PN:21-45003
-JBA 6" rear coils
-Fox 2.0 12" Remote Reservoir Rear Shocks with C/D adjust
-5lbs CO2 tank
-Front Inner Fender Liners with room for 35" tires
-Custom Rusty's Rear LCAs
-Custom Safari Snorkel - - - Finished the plumbing
-Custom OTRATTW Switch Covers
-AEV EGR Module
-Reupholstered Steering Wheel
-Custom Side Exit Exhaust
-08 HID Projector Headlamps MK-2
-Jeep-Core LED Cup Holder Rings
-Cobra 75 CB
-SprintBooster
-HD Front Drive Shaft
-Sonnax Transmission Line Pressure Booster
-Modified ARB Bar
-Under Cover Fabworks 12 Bolt Cover
-Custom AM/FM Antenna
-Bilstein 5100 Struts
-37" Maxxis Trepadors (bias) - - - Glamour Pics
-Aspen Creek (S4xC) Boulder Grill Insert
-RCV Shafts
-Crawl Offroad Stainless Extended Brake Lines
-LED High Beams
-50" Curved LED Light Bar
-Blue Hood Hash Marks
-BrakeMotive Rotors and Pads
-Custom Rear Tire Carrier
-Relocated Rear Licence Plate
-Odyssey 34/78 Battery
-ARB Twin Compressor (CKMTA12)
-TransGo Reprogramming Kit (45RFE-HD2)
-BFGoodrich KO2 35x12.5R17 Tires
-LED Strip Brake Lights
-TRE Soft Shackles
-Gobi Rack Bike Mounts
-JeePerf Polyurethane Bushings
-Shovel Mount
-JeePerf Chromoly SuperFelx Tie Rods
A more current picture:
Future mods (in no particular order) :
- Tablet Dash Instal
- Custom Coilovers
- 6.1L Headers
- Rear 3-link Long Arms
- SRT Seats
It all started in 2004 when I saw the beast that AEV and SuperLift made.
Not only did it look awesome, but it boasted some incredible performance. A Jeep Grand Cherokee with QDII coupled to a HEMI! I had to have it! Unfortunately, being a lowly military man also trying to support a family I could not afford a $45K vehicle, let along the $5K+ for the lift tires and other goodies.
Finally after the market took a crap in late 08 the time had come! I started looking around and pricing the different models and option. By then the CRD had also come out which I wanted more than the Hemi, but I could not find one in Cali :thumbdown: I found a few in other states, but they were too far away and more than I could afford. So I ended up scoring a 2005 Limited with every option available that year and 40K miles for $16K! It seemed no one wanted to buy a big Hemi powered vehicle at that time, so local dealers were pricing them very low. Even a year after I bought it I couldn't find a better deal :thumbsup:
This was the day I brought it home!
Yes it is dirty because I insisted on swinging by a trail on the way home to test out 4lo! I wanted to make sure the t-case and ELSDs were working properly.
In fact the first mod I made was to remove the front air dam before I hit the trail.
***************************************************************************
Below is a list of mods I have performed. Click on the mod and it will take you straight to it. This should help with the confusion of trying to find what you are looking for :2thumbsup:
-Volant CAI
-MBRP Exhaust
-LED Taillights
-Aries Taillight Guards
-OME MD Lift with 255/75/17 BFG MT tires on Moabs
-HIDs in the Lows and Fogs
-4xGuard Front Skid
-4xGuard Matrix
-Chrome Grill Slats
-Rear Hitch Mod to clear a New 255/75/17 MT
-4xGuard Rear Skid
-Midland CB in the Cubby
-HM Engineering Chromoly UCAs
-Stillen Rotors
-ARB High Output Compressor and Tank Plumbing Pics
-285/70/17 BFG KM2 Tires
-Rear Fender Mod
-JKS Quicker Disconnects (Front)
-4xGuard 12 Bolt Diff Cover
-Grooved the KM2s
-Painted Side View Mirror Covers
-Taylor Shorties
-BT Catch Can
-Fastman Trottle Body
-1.5" Rear Coil Spacers
-Rusty's Extended Rear Sway Bar Links
-Rusty's Strut Spacers (Stacking Two of Them)
-Firestik 3' CB Antenna on a Saguaro Mount Installed a Stainless Spring
-4xGuard Belly Skid
-4xGuard Sliders
-295/70/17 Nitto Trail Grapplers
-OME HD Coils
-Bump Stop Extensions (Front)
-Painted the Matrix and Front Skid
-SuperLift Rear Shocks
-Rear Brake Line Extensions and Fuel Tank Notch
-JKS Quicker Disconnects (Rear)
-Rusty's Adjustable Track Bar
-Bumpstop Extensions (Rear)
-Rigid Industries D2s
-Refurbished My Hi-Lift Jack
-Fox 2.0 11" Remote Reservoir Shocks
-Saguaro Switch Panel
-Gobi Stealth Roof Rack
-Hidden Winch
-Painted My Moabs (Set #1)
-LED Switchbacks
-LED Rock Lights
-MOPAR Badge
-Limiting Straps (Front)
-Rigid Industries 20" E-Series
-Painted My Washer Fluid Bottle
-Cargo Area LED Strip Mod
-Bedlined Rear Step
-08+ HID Projector Headlamps
-Ouch Band-Aid!
-Over Head Switch Panel
-Bedlined Rockers
-ORT Wheel Decals
-BT Under Hood Kit - Completed Kit
-ASFIR Front and T-Case skids
-Steel Armadillo Sliders
-Armor Weights
-WeatherTech Floor Mats
-ORT8 Badges
-10" Stainless Steel Antenna
-7 Watt Cree Reverse Bulbs - Night Pics
-Billet Low Pro Door Locks - Instal Pics - Low Pro OEM Locks
-Throttle Body Grounding Wire
-Fumoto Engine Oil Plug
-35x12.50R17 BFG KR Tires - Instal Pics
-MOD Status
-Expanded Sheet Metal Grill
-Mopar Fuel Tank Door
-Painted My Moabs (Set#2)
-Painted Caliper Covers (Rear)
-SuperLift Instal
-Mopar Stripes
-Modified SuperLift Steering Stops
-Front and Rear View Camera System
-Staun Tyre Deflators
-Tough Light 42" Black Series - Night Shots
-BullyDog WatchDog
-KC LED Utility Light
-Painted Side View Mirrors
-Front Bumper Trim
-New Laser Etched Switch Cover
-Pillar Pod
-Insulated The Intake again
-Brightt USA 19" LED bar
-AFE Pro Dry Filter PN:21-45003
-JBA 6" rear coils
-Fox 2.0 12" Remote Reservoir Rear Shocks with C/D adjust
-5lbs CO2 tank
-Front Inner Fender Liners with room for 35" tires
-Custom Rusty's Rear LCAs
-Custom Safari Snorkel - - - Finished the plumbing
-Custom OTRATTW Switch Covers
-AEV EGR Module
-Reupholstered Steering Wheel
-Custom Side Exit Exhaust
-08 HID Projector Headlamps MK-2
-Jeep-Core LED Cup Holder Rings
-Cobra 75 CB
-SprintBooster
-HD Front Drive Shaft
-Sonnax Transmission Line Pressure Booster
-Modified ARB Bar
-Under Cover Fabworks 12 Bolt Cover
-Custom AM/FM Antenna
-Bilstein 5100 Struts
-37" Maxxis Trepadors (bias) - - - Glamour Pics
-Aspen Creek (S4xC) Boulder Grill Insert
-RCV Shafts
-Crawl Offroad Stainless Extended Brake Lines
-LED High Beams
-50" Curved LED Light Bar
-Blue Hood Hash Marks
-BrakeMotive Rotors and Pads
-Custom Rear Tire Carrier
-Relocated Rear Licence Plate
-Odyssey 34/78 Battery
-ARB Twin Compressor (CKMTA12)
-TransGo Reprogramming Kit (45RFE-HD2)
-BFGoodrich KO2 35x12.5R17 Tires
-LED Strip Brake Lights
-TRE Soft Shackles
-Gobi Rack Bike Mounts
-JeePerf Polyurethane Bushings
-Shovel Mount
-JeePerf Chromoly SuperFelx Tie Rods
A more current picture:
Future mods (in no particular order) :
- Tablet Dash Instal
- Custom Coilovers
- 6.1L Headers
- Rear 3-link Long Arms
- SRT Seats
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Ya they just posted that, but I have known about it for a while am have actually been sitting on pics for about a month now. Although it is a hidden winch system like mine, it is not the same design. I am sure it is a very sturdy and great system for the masses and if you are unable to make your own then this is your best option. My big complaint is the mounting orientation of the winch. Because they had to design a system that would work for most winches of varying sizes and to meet the needs of everyone, they had to mount the winch foot forward. The mounting orientation was a big part of my plans when I was designing mine. I have mine mounted foot down for easy access to the lock/unlock lever and the drum in case of tangles and other issues that might arise. AEV mounted theirs foot up and S4xC mounted their foot forward. What this mean is with the AEV design you have to reach under the bumper to reach the lever and drum which will be facing down. With the S4xC design you have to reach under the bumper as well but it is not facing down like the AEV design, it is facing inboard. So you have to reach under the bumper and back towards the radiator to reach the lever or the drum. This was a situation I did not want to get myself into. Too many times I have seen guys stuck in bad situations off road and most of the time the winch is sitting right on top of the bumper so it is easy to reach and mess with. You don't ever get to choose how and where you get stuck! So if you get stuck where you bumper is up against a rock or ledge or a log or any other obstacle, you are screwed because you cannot reach under your bumper! I brought this up to them when I saw their design, but it seems they are fine with it the way it is. If any of this even makes any sense
I definately see what you're saying. For this same reason I like to at least tie my spare down in the folded down rear seats or put it up top when I go wheeling. Like you say - you never know how or where you're going to get stuck and the same applies with blowin a tire out.Ya they just posted that, but I have known about it for a while am have actually been sitting on pics for about a month now. Although it is a hidden winch system like mine, it is not the same design. I am sure it is a very sturdy and great system for the masses and if you are unable to make your own then this is your best option. My big complaint is the mounting orientation of the winch. Because they had to design a system that would work for most winches of varying sizes and to meet the needs of everyone, they had to mount the winch foot forward. The mounting orientation was a big part of my plans when I was designing mine. I have mine mounted foot down for easy access to the lock/unlock lever and the drum in case of tangles and other issues that might arise. AEV mounted theirs foot up and S4xC mounted their foot forward. What this mean is with the AEV design you have to reach under the bumper to reach the lever and drum which will be facing down. With the S4xC design you have to reach under the bumper as well but it is not facing down like the AEV design, it is facing inboard. So you have to reach under the bumper and back towards the radiator to reach the lever or the drum. This was a situation I did not want to get myself into. Too many times I have seen guys stuck in bad situations off road and most of the time the winch is sitting right on top of the bumper so it is easy to reach and mess with. You don't ever get to choose how and where you get stuck! So if you get stuck where you bumper is up against a rock or ledge or a log or any other obstacle, you are screwed because you cannot reach under your bumper! I brought this up to them when I saw their design, but it seems they are fine with it the way it is. If any of this even makes any sense
Very true! I don't like my spare in either of those positions which it why I chose to spend money on a set of bullet proof tires. With these things I shouldn't ever have to use my spare But I still carry a spare because you never really know.
But I still carry a spare because you never really know.
A way to not have to worry about where the engage lever is located is to wire on an onboard winch controller and just use the motor to release line instead of free spooling if you are in a location where you can not access the lever. Yes, it is annoying and more time consuming to have to use the motor to feed the line but this is a solution to the problem. And you can make someone pull the line while stay inside the vehicle.
I know you can power the line out, but as you said it sucks and no one wants to do it. Which is why I took so much time planning mine out to do it right and the way I wanted it to be. I am not saying the S4xC set up is bad and that no one should buy it, I am just pointing out a flaw that a buyer should be aware of before buying. It is great that they made the system because up until now you had to make it yourself or pay someone to do it for you.
Also so everyone knows the factory crossmember that you have to remove is available to purchase! I have seen them on eBay and RockAuto. Which mean you can instal a hidden winch system and if you have to buy a newer WK later on, you can remove the winch cradle and instal a factory crossmember to bring the front end back to stock. I know that was a concern for some.
RockAuto $45
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Also so everyone knows the factory crossmember that you have to remove is available to purchase! I have seen them on eBay and RockAuto. Which mean you can instal a hidden winch system and if you have to buy a newer WK later on, you can remove the winch cradle and instal a factory crossmember to bring the front end back to stock. I know that was a concern for some.
RockAuto $45
I see! Well good luck with your new one! I love new toys
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I added a couple more stickers!!!
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And another wheel shot!
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And another wheel shot!
I know! But for now this works and is cheaper
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Ok I need some input from you guys! I want to through a little color into this thing. Originally I wanted to do red. Like paint my calipers and other little things. But that seems to be the fall back color a lot. So I am thinking one of these.
Hemi Orange:
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Or Monster Green:
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I am leaning more towards the orange mainly because I feel the green has kind of been over done lately in the industry (although I still love it). I am just not sure how well it would look with the Jeep being Khaki, Graphite, and Black.
Which ever color I choose I will most likely paint my calipers and suspension components like the coils, control arms, and maybe the rear diff cover. I am sure I will throw it in on little thing around the Jeep as well. I am also planning on painting my radiator!
Like this:
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Thought???
Hemi Orange:
Or Monster Green:
I am leaning more towards the orange mainly because I feel the green has kind of been over done lately in the industry (although I still love it). I am just not sure how well it would look with the Jeep being Khaki, Graphite, and Black.
Which ever color I choose I will most likely paint my calipers and suspension components like the coils, control arms, and maybe the rear diff cover. I am sure I will throw it in on little thing around the Jeep as well. I am also planning on painting my radiator!
Like this:
Thought???
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