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Yeah, that's my bad, I'll have to check again both ways since I can't remember what I had exactly. Was thinking I should check the hub to fender measurements at the time and I guess that's what came out.
 

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Wow, pat85, your Grand looks sick! :drool: I love the white/black combo!

Sorry about the n00b questions, but I got a bit confused with all these springs/spacers - how much approximately you lifted from stock?

And another question - how to tell if you have Up Country springs? As I understand those already provide 1" of additional lift?

I'm not sure if my WJ has the UC springs, but I'm thinking of putting 245/70/R17s (30.5"), so not sure if I need a BB or not.. (if necessary I'd go with as minimum as possible, 1" or so).
 

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Or, you can try this which doesn't involve waiting for Chrysler customer service. Copy and paste the following URL in your browser:

http://www.jeep.com/webselfservice/BuildSheetServlet?vin=1J4GW68S0XC669846

Replace the part after "vin=" with your VIN number. It spits out a PDF of your build sheet. Look for "Up Country Suspension Group" and "Heavy Duty Gas Shocks". If it says "Normal Duty Suspension", then you do NOT have UpCountry.
 

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That's the coolest thing ever, I didn't know such thing existed, thanks for sharing!

I'm afraid I don't have Up Country suspension, what I can find is "Firm Suspension" and "Springs" on page 5 and 6... :( Oh well, gonna have to buy the spacers.. (Here's the info:
http://www.jeep.com/webselfservice/BuildSheetServlet?vin=1J8G2E8A94Y148330)

Just found out (on WJjeeps.com) that Up Country package was discontinued for all models as of August 31, 2003.
 

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Wow. That looks really nice. I REALLY like the silver lip on your wheels. Who makes them? Will your current wheels accept 265's once you get the 245's worn out?
Thanks! They are MotoMetal Wheels. Unfortunately, they are discontinued. I can't even get one more for a spare, had to go with a steel equivalent. They do take 265's, with ease. I am running 265/65R17s right now.
 

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Wow, pat85, your Grand looks sick! :drool: I love the white/black combo!

Sorry about the n00b questions, but I got a bit confused with all these springs/spacers - how much approximately you lifted from stock?

And another question - how to tell if you have Up Country springs? As I understand those already provide 1" of additional lift?

I'm not sure if my WJ has the UC springs, but I'm thinking of putting 245/70/R17s (30.5"), so not sure if I need a BB or not.. (if necessary I'd go with as minimum as possible, 1" or so).
Thanks man! All said and done, by the book I should have achieved 1.75in in the front and about 1.5in in the rear. I didn't take measurements, just going off of the measurements of the parts installed. I have had to do a decent amount of trimming in the front to clear my tires with the front sway bar disconnected (265/65R17s=30.6x10.7). I doubt just the UC springs will allow you the 245/70R17s, unless you keep the sway connected and maybe do some trimming.
 

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Hey Pat,

Back with another question...where did you get your UC springs? Were they new or used, MOPAR or aftermarket? Roughly what did they set you back?
 

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wxmanWJ said:
Hey Pat, Back with another question...where did you get your UC springs? Were they new or used, MOPAR or aftermarket? Roughly what did they set you back?
They were Moog. Front Moog part #80976 & Rear Moog part #80873. I honestly can't remember how much I spent on them.
 

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They were Moog. Front Moog part #80976 & Rear Moog part #80873. I honestly can't remember how much I spent on them.
Great. That's enough information for me to figure out price. I would be more interested in what you paid if they were genuine MOPAR springs. Thanks!
 

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Well I got my stuff ordered! Pretty much an exact setup (copy?- thanks for the inspiration!) of what you're running. Monroe Reflex monotubes (Upcountry suspension), Raybestos springs (Upcountry suspension), 3/4" front spacer, 3/8" (10mm) rear spacer, and new isolators at all four corners. I also ordered a front JKS bar pin eliminator too. Also found another similar lift for reference:

http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f197/2001-wj-kolaks-help-1470859/

Thanks again for the information and inspiration haha :tea:
 

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Well I got my stuff ordered! Pretty much an exact setup (copy?- thanks for the inspiration!) of what you're running. Monroe Reflex monotubes (Upcountry suspension), Raybestos springs (Upcountry suspension), 3/4" front spacer, 3/8" (10mm) rear spacer, and new isolators at all four corners. I also ordered a front JKS bar pin eliminator too. Also found another similar lift for reference:

http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f197/2001-wj-kolaks-help-1470859/

Thanks again for the information and inspiration haha :tea:
Awesome! It's a decent little setup, and it's more capable than one would think. I recently went to an OHV park, one of the higher regarded ones in my area (5 hours away), and I was able to do a good amount of the intermediate trails. I did crunch one of my rocker panels and rub my rear bumper on some declines but nothing I couldn't spray more bedliner over, ha. Definitely got the itch to go bigger though. All in good time, or at least that's what the wife tells me.
 
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