[JkFuriousd]

I understand that this is an off road vehicle but expecting Chrysler to fix this is like buying a Gallardo and taking it to road Atlanta and blowing the engine expecting Lamborghini to repair it!

 

[CTJeepWJ]

Yeah, Jeep (and other manufacturers) cover their a$s in these commercials by saying "Professional Driver on a closed course. Do not attempt"

I really think that something is fishy here. Either it wasn't "only 19" or you were going way faster than you think/said. The owners manual of my 04 Grand Cherokee says to not go through water higher than 24" which is about the top of the front bumper. I vaguely remember the Wrangler manual says something about 30" (but I might be mistaken)

The way the airbox snorkel is set up on the TJ it doesn't really allow water to simply splash in there unless there is a TON of water. I don't know exactly how the JK is set up but I am sure they have improved the design.

I am guessing that the OP is downplaying the stats in order to try to get the dealership/insurance company to cover the repairs. Or he modified the airbox or put on a cold air intake or something.

Who knows...I imagine the insurance company will pick up the tab since he probably had a loan on it and they force you to take collision on a vehicle with a loan. Expect the rates to go through the roof, you might just want to try to repair it on your own time/money.

oh and post the vin number here so that no one on this thread buys that thing down the road. haha

 

[Dronac]

To answer a few questions the water was probably not deeper than 19 inches, I didn't stop to measure after it happened. A 2wd F-150 went through just before I did and had no issues. As far as the dealer, they are sticking with the "It's not our fault" line. Yes, I did take a trail rated vehicle through a reasonable puddle at a reasonable speed, it is my fault for using an off-road vehicle...forgive me...off-road! I went all the way to the general manager showing the video and even they said it should be covered. But water in the engine, no matter what...is apparently a user error. I called my insurance company and without a blink they said they'd take care of me. They asked me to hold onto the video because it seems like something they would go after Jeep for and get me my deductible back. It's only a $100 out of pocket engine so I can't complain too much. Thank god for insurance. JK owners...buy a snorkel...even for splashes. That is going to be my first purchase as soon as I get her back. Any ideas on the "best" snorkel kit?

The best at the moment is the AEV (IMHO), although you have to cut your hood. If you want to wait, Rugged Ridge is coming out with a snorkel that replaces one of the side pieces above your hood and under your windshield.

What's the damage to your premium?

 

[little_Jeep]

To answer a few questions the water was probably not deeper than 19 inches, I didn't stop to measure after it happened. A 2wd F-150 went through just before I did and had no issues. As far as the dealer, they are sticking with the "It's not our fault" line. Yes, I did take a trail rated vehicle through a reasonable puddle at a reasonable speed, it is my fault for using an off-road vehicle...forgive me...off-road! I went all the way to the general manager showing the video and even they said it should be covered. But water in the engine, no matter what...is apparently a user error. I called my insurance company and without a blink they said they'd take care of me. They asked me to hold onto the video because it seems like something they would go after Jeep for and get me my deductible back. It's only a $100 out of pocket engine so I can't complain too much. Thank god for insurance. JK owners...buy a snorkel...even for splashes. That is going to be my first purchase as soon as I get her back. Any ideas on the "best" snorkel kit?

I have heard stories of a vacuum line coming undone and then when Jeep goes into water, vacuum line just sucks as much water as possible into the engine. However, in real World, I would say most damage is caused by people who do not understand the word "Hydro-loc"....Water crossing are high risk and if you don't know what you should do, stay out of water.

 

[Joevacs]

"allibaster; Slow and steady just like in this Jeep commercial?"

I know, I know....like I always tell my kids....do as I say, and not as I do.

The commercials are pretty, but the reality is that as long as they throw the "real story" somewhere in the literature, and then tell you that you have to read it....they're 90% covered...

Unless of coarse, you happen to be selling, say, cigarettes......
Bottom line, lawyers can be an asset or a liability, depending on how deep your pockets are. It's a game played in a court room. The deepest pockets win.

 

[tjkj2002]

To answer a few questions the water was probably not deeper than 19 inches, I didn't stop to measure after it happened. A 2wd F-150 went through just before I did and had no issues. As far as the dealer, they are sticking with the "It's not our fault" line. Yes, I did take a trail rated vehicle through a reasonable puddle at a reasonable speed, it is my fault for using an off-road vehicle...forgive me...off-road! I went all the way to the general manager showing the video and even they said it should be covered. But water in the engine, no matter what...is apparently a user error. I called my insurance company and without a blink they said they'd take care of me. They asked me to hold onto the video because it seems like something they would go after Jeep for and get me my deductible back. It's only a $100 out of pocket engine so I can't complain too much. Thank god for insurance. JK owners...buy a snorkel...even for splashes. That is going to be my first purchase as soon as I get her back. Any ideas on the "best" snorkel kit?

The case will be short lived as "owner induced" accident will be found and not a manufacturer defect.Just more $$$ down the drain making everyones insurance rates go up and the price of new vehicles to also go up.

Thank you

 

[RAZORBILL]

The case will be short lived as "owner induced" accident will be found and not a manufacturer defect.Just more $$$ down the drain making everyones insurance rates go up and the price of new vehicles to also go up.

Thank you

That was helpful. Hopefully you'll never get in an accident and use your insurance to cover the repairs. Imagine how that will raise everyones rates!! Get a grip, I doubt the OP set out to lock up his engine so he could raise the cost of insurance and new cars nationwide. Clearly he accidentally locked up the engine on his JK and now he is using his insurance that he has probably been paying on for years.

Maybe someday we'll all be perfect like you.:hahaha:

Thank you

 

[JkFuriousd]

Unless of coarse, you happen to be selling, say, cigarettes......

 

[ncb]

The OP could post the video.

 

[muttytruckster]

Video would clear all........................?s

 

[BLK2000TJ]

On the OP's Profile page under Jeep History he says he's "doing everything I can to test the limits every time I go out". Guess he found the limits.

 

[little_Jeep]

On the OP's Profile page under Jeep History he says he's "doing everything I can to test the limits every time I go out". Guess he found the limits.

The above would also explain his user name... "JKTester"

 

[Scooter_Trash]

The OP could post the video.

Video would clear all........................?s

Let's see the video.

 

[JUPITERSAHARA]

I know that on my first wheeling adventure with my 2010 JK 2dr Sport, I had water come over the hood a few times while out at Corbett Park and had no problems at all....

 

[BLK2000TJ]

I've done some fairly deep stream crossings before in my TJ and JK's while trying to get from point A to point B ,but to purposely drive through deep water again and again without a snorkel is asking for trouble in my opinion.

 

[NorthRiver]

I was out playing around in puddles...really nothing big at all.

Thats the exact line that anyone that has hydrolocked their engine uses.:laugh:

 

[tjkj2002]

That was helpful. Hopefully you'll never get in an accident and use your insurance to cover the repairs. Imagine how that will raise everyones rates!! Get a grip, I doubt the OP set out to lock up his engine so he could raise the cost of insurance and new cars nationwide. Clearly he accidentally locked up the engine on his JK and now he is using his insurance that he has probably been paying on for years.

Maybe someday we'll all be perfect like you.:hahaha:

Thank you

Insurance is there for those accidents,yes and have no issue when you actually have a accendent but when your isurance company is going after Jeep over a un-winable case it's just wasted money that all of us end up paying for in the end.

This was not a accident.

 

[RAZORBILL]

Insurance is there for those accidents,yes and have no issue when you actually have a accendent but when your isurance company is going after Jeep over a un-winable case it's just wasted money that all of us end up paying for in the end.

This was not a accident.

I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that the op's insurance company has a pretty good set of lawyers and they will decide if it's worth it for their bottom line. The lawyers and the cost involved will determine whether or not it's "winable". I'm also gonna say that Jeep has lawyers on staff. They probably get paid whether in court or not. I'm betting this incident doesn't cost you a dime.

If it wasn't an accident than what was it? You could call it stupid I guess but like I said I'm sure it wasn't his intent to trash his engine. Most accidents on the roads are caused when someone does something "stupid". In this case the act of stupidity only damaged his vehicle.:thumbsup:

 

[1sportsdoc]

The case will be short lived as "owner induced" accident will be found and not a manufacturer defect.Just more $$$ down the drain making everyones insurance rates go up and the price of new vehicles to also go up.

Thank you

So if you take your Liberty off road, cave in the rear quarter, you wouldn't claim this "owner induced" accident on your auto ins?

I don't get the whole fascination with water when it comes to wheelin but, regardless, this is a good reason for why we all have insurance ... it's not fair for you to say when and why we get to use said ins.

 

[tjkj2002]

So if you take your Liberty off road, cave in the rear quarter, you wouldn't claim it on your auto ins?

No,that would be a waste of time and money as I could fix it myself for far less then my $250 deductable.