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I'm starting this thread as a very basic guideline specific for JF members that post adds in the JF classifieds.

When posting an add on JF classifieds (or any website) DO NOT try to scam, lie, and rip people off to make a personal gain by being dishonest! It's just absolutely terrible that there are some people you can't trust these days. All it takes is just one idiot to ruin it all and break your trust from buying something on-line! It's just not the good ol' days of face to face sale transactions anymore. Ebay, craigslist, and other "classified type" websites are always infested with liars, scammers, and cheats... I wish I could say that JF is safe from these types of people. That's why I truly believe there needs to be some basic rules for all JF members posting adds in the classified sections along with serious consequences for those that break these rules.

For those who try and sell something on this forum... PLEASE BE HONEST!! We are a community of friends, family, and great all around people and don't deserve to be ripped off.

When you post an add for sale in JF classifieds...

- Be as accurate as possible about the item you are selling. Don't lie, under / over estimate, or try to make your item "appear" to be any better then it really is!

- There's obviously a reason you are selling the item so don't make up some BS story when asked. If you have to try and make up some story why you are selling something then that's usually a good sign you shouldn't be selling it to someone else.

- Be reasonable on the price and don't try to make a huge profit on the buyer... especially on used items that no longer have any warranty. You might have some sort of loss in some way or another... don't make it the buyer's loss!!

- DO NOT sell JUNK!!! If you are selling it because it's broke, then throw it out or return it if you have a warranty!! Don't try and screw someone else! The only exception to this is if you are honest about the defect and you make that very clear in your add. Do not expect much $$ for defective items regardless of "what you paid for it"!

- Do not overstate shipping to try and make an extra buck on your sale! Accidentally overstating shipping costs happens from time to time but try your best to give an accurate shipping estimate based on the size, weight, and destination of the delivery. Call UPS or FedEx ahead of time with the exact details to obtain an accurate shipping estimate for the buyer.

- Be helpful when answering questions about your item for sale. Sometimes members might be interested in an item you are selling but might not know enough about it to determine if it will work out for them. Look at the buyer's profile and jeep information and do your best to help out to provide as much information as you can. DO NOT "play dumb" and sell something to someone when you know it won't work for them!

- And last but not least.... treat people how you would expect to be treated! Everyone gets ripped off at least once in their life and it's never a good experience. Don't become that person and rip someone else off to make up for it. Take your losses and retaliate by exposing those that are dishonest!

Hopefully this thread gets distributed around for a while... I'm looking to buy some 4.10 gears soon LOL :thumbsup:
 

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i got riped off by a buyer(forum member DIVEBUM)! stole a windshield frame I even payed 100.00 out of my pocket to ship it , all lost! well see not only sellers can be dishonest, keep your guard up!
 

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i got riped off by a buyer(forum member DIVEBUM)! stole a windshield frame I even payed 100.00 out of my pocket to ship it , all lost! well see not only sellers can be dishonest, keep your guard up!
You shipped something without having the payment for it first?
 

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Soooooooo. D'ya think the dishonest folks will see the err of their ways and turn over a new leaf after reading this?
 

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Soooooooo. D'ya think the dishonest folks will see the err of their ways and turn over a new leaf after reading this?
I agree. They wont change by reading it.
A good thing to start is a "Good, Bad and the UGLY" section.
people can post like it says good, bad or ugly about transactions they have had.
Can be from a JF member to an ebay seller.
 

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Did someone rip you off or you just posting this to post it?
Someone tried to recently yes. Here's his classified add....

http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f126/4-10-gears-859156/

Did you buy MelloYellow's
detroit locker? :rofl:

LOL… nope thank god! That's a perfect example of what I'm talking about. Just terrible!

Soooooooo. D'ya think the dishonest folks will see the err of their ways and turn over a new leaf after reading this?
Maybe… maybe not. My point wasn't to change the mindset of every idiot that's out there trying to screw over people like us… this was about setting some basic (common courtesy) guidelines that anyone should think about when selling something. Sometimes people just don't know any better and think it's ok to do… L.

A good thing to start is a "Good, Bad and the
UGLY" section. people can post like it says good, bad or ugly about transactions they have had.

I totally agree!! We definitely need to have a thread with a "bad list" of sellers caught doing something bogus so future buyers can be aware :thumbsup:
 

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Isn't there a forum policy related to this? I say if you scam someone you get the BANHAMMER!

Sorry, but Jeepers always talk about this credo of helping eachother out and ripping off someone is ******y.
 

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Isn't there a forum policy related to this? I say if you scam someone you get the BANHAMMER!

Sorry, but Jeepers always talk about this credo of helping eachother out and ripping off someone is ******y.
I looked around and could not find anything regarding the JF classified adds. That's why I started this thread and I also agree that if you get caught being a douchbag seller and screw someone over then you should be banned from JF.
 

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Seems like common sense to me, but then again some people are pretty dumb and/or rationalize things in their own idiotic way. Nice work, hopefully it helps :thumbsup:
Thanks Unlimited04! It is very basic common sense which most of us do without thinking twice, but unfortunately some people are very idiotic and dishonest. I hope it helps as well :)

BTW - your rig is lookin' good!
 

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You shipped something without having the payment for it first?
i know , well he said he didnt have a paypal account and that if I sent a paypal invoice to his email he can do a one time payment (I didnt know that that was possible but is true) anyways i sent the invoice and on the transaction said pending, he email me and askme to ship the frame, long story the pending never went away cuz pending does not mean that the money is being transfered it meas that they are waiting for the other party to pay , he never did and told me that it went thru on his side and that was it never got back to me, I pm`ed him many times but nothing no money no nothing, he is lucky he lives on the other side of the country. i was trusting cuz he was a jeeper working on a rebuilt projrct justy like me a many of my friends who are some of the most hones and helpfull people arround, I never expected this from a jf member!
 

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i know , well he said he didnt have a paypal account and that if I sent a paypal invoice to his email he can do a one time payment (I didnt know that that was possible but is true) anyways i sent the invoice and on the transaction said pending, he email me and askme to ship the frame, long story the pending never went away cuz pending does not mean that the money is being transfered it meas that they are waiting for the other party to pay , he never did and told me that it went thru on his side and that was it never got back to me, I pm`ed him many times but nothing no money no nothing, he is lucky he lives on the other side of the country. i was trusting cuz he was a jeeper working on a rebuilt projrct justy like me a many of my friends who are some of the most hones and helpfull people arround, I never expected this from a jf member!
I know what you mean. I used to think being a member of JF had a certain amount of credibility associated with it automatically, but the reality is any internet dickwad can make an account anywhere and screw honest people. On an unrelated note, don't ever buy a muffler from anyone in West Virginia who drives a red XJ :rofl:
 

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Sounds like a lot of chastising for something you could not prove. I read the classified ad for the 4:10's and his story is extremely possible. I do that all the time. I buy things and then keep searching for the same item while waiting for the one I bought to arrive and consequently find a better deal and buy it also. Sounds like he did find and buy another set with lower miles and gave his friend the higher mile set he'd already purchased (as I have done with tons of used Jeep parts) and then, after his Jeep was totaled, was forced to sell the 40k pair.

That all makes sense right?
 
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