[goonbash]

I have less than 1500 miles on my 2014 diesel GC. It has gone thru the exhaust system regeneration twice so far. Is that normal ?

The evic message says continue driving at near highway speeds. Obviously you can't always do that. Both times I have continued driving and after 10-12 miles the message goes away.

As a hypothetical though: what happens if you are in a position where the exhaust regeneration process has begun but for whatever reason you have to park and shut the car off during the process? What happens?

If this process is going to happen every 700 miles like it has been then eventually I will surely be in a position at some point where I can't continue driving until the regeneration process is over like the evic message says to do.

Thanks

 

[NC4stroker]

Regens will vary depending on driving style. If you idle more than average, or do mainly city driving, your vehicle will go through more regens. The "magic" with highway driving and/or towing, is EGTs (exhaust gas temps) are generally higher and can "oxidize" the particulate matter which has been "caught" in the DPF (diesel particulate filter).

IF you get an EVIC message saying your DPF is xx% full, and a regen is necessary, I would drive until the regen is complete.

** As a sidebar, after reviewing the diesel supplement, if the EVIC says Exhaust Filter XX% Full Safely Drive at Highway Speeds to Remedy. I would plan on driving at highway speeds long enough for the regen to be complete.

(**Our GC diesel supplement reads very close to the Ram Cummins supplement. Evidently our vehicles can go through active regen without an EVIC message, and the EVIC only alerts us if the DPF is too full. IF you turn the vehicle off in this situation, it's no problem. This situation occurred on our GC once so far in 2200 miles, and it just smelled funny in the garage.)

So, in summation, if your EVIC says to drive at highway speeds in order for the DPF to regen, I would do that, and I would not cut off the vehicle until the EVIC says you're good to go.

 

[JeepGC6855]

I think the more you idle, the more the filter plugs up. In my GMC, one night I drove 200 miles on the highway the then the next day it needed to regenerate. I think with the GMC, it only does the filter cleaning when needed, thus just because it is at highway speed, it isn't cleaning the filter

 

[Robert J. yates]

My 08 CRD regens like clockwork every 750 miles. I wouldn't worry about it to much if you have to stop during a regen. It will try again next time you start the vehicle.

 

[jaje]

I don't have a scanner that informs me when my CRD is doing a regen and I just don't worry about it. Just drive it normally and it will catch up on the regen with the next long drive.

 

[goonbash]

Thanks. I don't idle much at all.

 

[onebluemcm]

We're at ~2300 miles, no regen yet. We do regular highway driving and have done one longish road trip with it so far, maybe that is the difference? Dunno. That seems excessive but only compared to our experience, n=1 doesn't mean much I admit.....

If it regens and there a no persistent indicator lights, I guess all is good.

Could a batch or two of "bad" fuel cause it to do that? Just a thought, I have no idea if it can be a factor.

 

[NC4stroker]

We're at ~2300 miles, no regen yet. We do regular highway driving and have done one longish road trip with it so far, maybe that is the difference? Dunno. That seems excessive but only compared to our experience, n=1 doesn't mean much I admit.....

If it regens and there a no persistent indicator lights, I guess all is good.

Could a batch or two of "bad" fuel cause it to do that? Just a thought, I have no idea if it can be a factor.

When we are cruising along at road speeds, and if the EGTs (exhaust gas temps) are high enough, the 3.0 constantly cleans, or oxidizes, the trapped particles in the DPF...a process called passive regeneration. IF enough passive regeneration cannot take place the GC can go through active regen, where fuel is metered into the exhaust system, before the DPF, where the fuel ignites and "cleans" the DPF.

It seems the vehicle can go through "active" regen without alerting through the EVIC. So, likely our GCs have gone through regens without us knowing.

I noticed coming home one night on the interstate, my MPGs dropping steadily even while I cruised at road speed. I wasn't far from home, and when I got out, the whole family noted the GC smelled odd. Likely a regen.

The EVIC evidently only alerts us to an impending problem only when the particulate filter is getting clogged. This happens when driving conditions do not allow an active regen, as active regens happen at highway speeds. Higher road speeds likely aid in the regen process by allowing higher EGTS to help with the process and also keeping the under car/exhaust temps in check. (Some heavy diesel equipment can undergo stationary regens....a manual process.)

 

[goonbash]

Most of my driving is around our tiny town at less than 35mph so that makes sense. My diesel is probably doing active regeneration whenever I leave town and it finally sees 40mph+ speeds.

Thanks for the input.

 

[NC4stroker]

Most of my driving is around our tiny town at less than 35mph so that makes sense. My diesel is probably doing active regeneration whenever I leave town and it finally sees 40mph+ speeds.

Thanks for the input.

If you could take her out on the highway, and do 75 for a few minutes a couple of times a week, that would really help the whole regen process!

My pops runs into the same thing with his Ram/Cummins. He mostly beats around town on it, and he has to do the highway thing once in a while.

I was thinking about my family in LA. The are always snarled in traffic, and it's ironic that in a part of the country full of "greenies", clean diesel technology is really not practical. I mean they would have to make a dedicated trip on the freeway to let the DPF clean itself, or the DPF would simply get too clogged, and the diesel would go into limp mode.

 

[goonbash]

The highway is 25 miles worth of twisty mountain roads away. No chance of doing that a couple times per week.

 

[NC4stroker]

The highway is 25 miles worth of twisty mountain roads away. No chance of doing that a couple times per week.

I live in flat eastern NC. I just figure the whole world is flat! LOL

 

[jaje]

I was thinking about my family in LA. The are always snarled in traffic, and it's ironic that in a part of the country full of "greenies", clean diesel technology is really not practical. I mean they would have to make a dedicated trip on the freeway to let the DPF clean itself, or the DPF would simply get too clogged, and the diesel would go into limp mode.

This is where hybrids do make sense like the Volt as you can run on electricity in snarled traffic. But when cruising on the highways or in a heavy vehicle they are not as efficient as a diesel. If the Volt came with a diesel generator instead of the gas engine it would get much higher than 33 MPG when batteries are depleted (so maybe Chevy will port over the now available diesel in the new Cruze into the next Volt) - it would make it a series hybrid like a locomotive engine - diesel generator with electric traction engine.

 

[onebluemcm]

I think I experienced some regen action today with no notification from the vehicle that it was happening. I had just filled up and was driving home, about 10 miles, on a road that has a 45mph limit and I normally get well into the 30mpgs on. It didn't want to do much better than the mid tewnties. After I shut if off in the garage I could hear that "ticking" sound you hear when a hot exhaust is cooling down and the thing definitely smelled hot. Seems like it definitely will try to take care of itself while you just happily drive along. I may have cut it off in the middle of a regen, so we'll see if there are any consequences from that.

 

[Robert J. yates]

FWIW... Regen on my 08WK smells like burning plastic.

 

[NC4stroker]

I think I experienced some regen action today with no notification from the vehicle that it was happening. I had just filled up and was driving home, about 10 miles, on a road that has a 45mph limit and I normally get well into the 30mpgs on. It didn't want to do much better than the mid tewnties. After I shut if off in the garage I could hear that "ticking" sound you hear when a hot exhaust is cooling down and the thing definitely smelled hot. Seems like it definitely will try to take care of itself while you just happily drive along. I may have cut it off in the middle of a regen, so we'll see if there are any consequences from that.

You're correct. It was regening. No consequences, it'll take up where it left off.

Remember the EVIC will only alert if the DPF is getting stopped up.

 

[diverb]

I have nearly 1400 miles on mine, I've never seen any message yet, but I also drive 33 miles on the highway to work each day and very little stop and go. So far I LOVE this vehicle!

 

[TypeRod]

You're correct. It was regening. No consequences, it'll take up where it left off.

Remember the EVIC will only alert if the DPF is getting stopped up.

Sorry to bring this thread back from the dead, but I thought I would just throw out my opinion on the re-gen process, I also posted in the re-gen thread in Jeep Garage. I am a new diesel enthusiast, right now I have a 2013 Passat TDI. And from what I have learned in my short time about regenerations is that you should avoid interrupting them just as you should avoid the black plague. lol. From what I understand, during a re-gen, the turbo is extremely hot just as is the DPF itself, and for you to just turn off your vehicle with the turbo at that temperature assuming 1000+ degrees F, there should be a concern of oil coking within the turbo, which is def. not good for the longevity of the turbo. And I understand a re-gen may occur at an inopportune time, like your late for work, the re-gen is still occurring once you arrive at work, but don't have time to wait for the car to finish its re-gen cycle and you need to turn off the vehicle. Hopefully these type of occurrences are minimal. But I feel a word of caution should be thrown out there, it is bad to turn off the vehicle during a re-gen, due to oil coking within the turbo. The vehicle should be left running to keep that oil and coolant running thru the engine and turbo especially. Just my .02 cents.

 

[redringlet1]

We have a Grand Cherokee Turbo Diesel with just about 5000 miles on it. Ours goes through the regen process ALL THE TIME. The latest incarnation I was on a road trip and drove 90 miles at 70mph and the message kept coming back saying to drive highway speeds to remedy. 2 days later I drove home (the car was not used for the 2 days) and it got another 90 miles at 70mph and the message still kept popping up. Obviously it shouldn't take more than 90 miles to remedy itself! The next day, when my husband tried to drive it, it eventually told him that he was not permitted to drive over 30mph (interesting, considering the previous message said to go highway speeds). It actually physcially would not allow the vehicle to go over 30mph. So, it's taken the slow <30mph drive to the shop. It also threw 2 check engine codes about losing communication with the ABS system.....and some other "lost communication" error that I can't remember. Needless to say I am not thrilled about my 6 month old car already being sidelined. I love the car but I fear reliability it going to be an issue with this thing!

 

[bf1967]

We have a Grand Cherokee Turbo Diesel with just about 5000 miles on it. Ours goes through the regen process ALL THE TIME. The latest incarnation I was on a road trip and drove 90 miles at 70mph and the message kept coming back saying to drive highway speeds to remedy. 2 days later I drove home (the car was not used for the 2 days) and it got another 90 miles at 70mph and the message still kept popping up. Obviously it shouldn't take more than 90 miles to remedy itself! The next day, when my husband tried to drive it, it eventually told him that he was not permitted to drive over 30mph (interesting, considering the previous message said to go highway speeds). It actually physcially would not allow the vehicle to go over 30mph. So, it's taken the slow <30mph drive to the shop. It also threw 2 check engine codes about losing communication with the ABS system.....and some other "lost communication" error that I can't remember. Needless to say I am not thrilled about my 6 month old car already being sidelined. I love the car but I fear reliability it going to be an issue with this thing!

Ours has just over 10k on it. The same exact thing happened where the exhaust filter filled up and put the Jeep in "limp mode". Jeep has a rapid response notification out to the dealers for this issue. They needed to apply a software update to the PCM module and run the vehicle thru 2 regen cycles. Call your dealer and let them know this if they aren't already aware. I just got ours back last night and so far it is fine. They put almost 30 miles on it to complete the regens though.

Bob