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there is a metal strip attached to the hard top leading edge and held in place with pop rivets. My concern is the position of the strip. There is a bend in the strip running full length and the question is which way does that angle face? to the front or rear of the hardtop? I had taken a pic of it when I removed it a long time ago and I cant tell from the pic if bent portion faces the rear or the front of the top. It can be installed either way. Any ideas? See pics. thanks Mike

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The metal strip should be installed with the bent flange facing towards the front.
 

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thank you Axhammer. But while I have you help me understand about the rubber "endcap" and when installed on the top in and on all the nooks and crannies and then removing the protective strip that covers the adhesive which then sticks to the w/s frame when top is installed. I assume then when removing the top it pulls the endcap off the hardtop. What do you do the next time you put on the top? What's up with that? or as usual am I missing something? Thanks Mike

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Rubber end cap should stay glued/mounted to hardtop (is this a YJ hardtop?) No other sealant should be present ot needed.

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Rubber end cap should stay glued/mounted to hardtop (is this a YJ hardtop?) No other sealant should be present ot needed.

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according to an earlier thread of mine in response to being a correct 82 CJ7 hardtop or not I was told "That’s an OEM hardtop, it’s the later composition plastic, I forget what they called it, but it has the seams, and is much lighter than the first version hardtop that was much heavier, and seamless". So that tell me it is correct for 82 CJ7. When I ordered the seals the listing verified it fits CJ and YJ's. I am just guessing I dont know how to install them cause it looks to me when I mock it up that the adhesive will attach to the frame. So something is wrong and probably me. Back to drawing board? does anyone have a pic with those end caps in place on a hardtop? Thanks again, Mike
 

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My 1986 CJ-7 that I bought new didn’t have those end seals. It didn’t have any seals.

When I put my early style hardtop on my 1985 CJ-7 I don’t use any type of seal or weather stripping. I set it in place, bolt down 8 tub bolts and five windshield frame screws.

Those corner (end seals) seals are YJ seals.
 

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My 1986 CJ-7 that I bought new didn’t have those end seals. It didn’t have any seals.

When I put my early style hardtop on my 1985 CJ-7 I don’t use any type of seal or weather stripping. I set it in place, bolt down 8 tub bolts and five windshield frame screws.

Those corner (end seals) seals are YJ seals.
Well you guys made my life a whole lot simpler. That explains why there wasnt any when I got the Jeep. No end cap seals for me and my CJ. THANKS to all, Mike
 

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I doubt you will ever have a water leak at the hardtop/windshield frame interface. The way it is designed works fine without any seal, however; the seal where the tub hinges the windshield frame will leak. My new Jeep back in the day leaked when it was only a few years old. My 37 year old 1985 Jeep leaks at this location badly, but the seal appears to be original, so that is to be expected.

I covered it with a strip of black Gorilla Tape a while back and it hasn’t leaked a drop since. I doubt I would do the Gorilla Tape fix after repainting my Jeep, but for now it does the job and it’s hard to notice the tape, since it’s black tape.

If you look close you can see the tape, but since the Jeep is so rough looking, I’m willing to put up with it. I drive my Jeep, and get caught in afternoon thunderstorms frequently, so it’s nice to not have water running down the dash onto the radio.
 
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I doubt you will ever have a water leak at the hardtop/windshield frame interface. The way it is designed works fine without any seal, however; the seal where the tub hinges the windshield frame will leak. My new Jeep back in the day leaked when it was only a few years old. My 37 year old 1985 Jeep leaks at this location badly, but the seal appears to be original, so that is to be expected.

I covered it with a strip of black Gorilla Tape a while back and it hasn’t leaked a drop since. I doubt I would do the Gorilla Tape fix after repainting my Jeep, but for now it does the job and it’s hard to notice the tape, since it’s black tape.

If you look close you can see the tape, but since the Jeep is so rough looking, I’m willing to put up with it. I drive my Jeep, and get caught in afternoon thunderstorms frequently, so it’s nice to not have water running down the dash onto the radio.
I will rest a little easier now, thanks Mike
 

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Do you have a picture of the top?

Not that it matters but it sounds like a YJ or aftermarket top maybe.

In 82 the hardtop is not plastic, and not light weight. They are heavy fiberglass 76-86. And the rear will have a dome light connector inside on the driver's side by the rear hatch. You should have a plug (orange and black wires) coming out of the harness back there that plugs into it.
The hatch is also completely framed and also heavy. It closes on the tailgate and locks the top so the tailgate can't open. No wiper either.

The outside is completely smooth. No ribs or rsised where the rear seat starts.
I have owned 76, 77, 78, 79, 80, 81, 82, 83, 84, 85 (never found the 86 with the 44 rearend I wanted) CJ7s with factory hardtops and all have been the same style top. The older had t-handle doors but same top. My 78 and 80 Golden Eagles had sunroofs. They were factory installed but were aftermarket and crap. No power, didn't slide.

My 82 was a limited with leather and a padded kind of carpet liner inside the top. From the factory.
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Well I will say mine did come with a seal across the front, just no end caps. It seals against the horizontal flat portion of the ws frame. View attachment 4154207
Interesting…I stand corrected…Denny is correct.

I never noticed this rubber strip glued to the hardtop back in the day when I had a new CJ-7.

I removed it many times back then, but I never looked up under there.

Now I need to look under my early style seamless heavy hardtop, but it’s installed on my Jeep for now.

I have a beat-up late style lightweight hardtop with the seams, and it has the rubber seal still glued in place, just like Denny’s picture…See my picture.
 
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Interesting…I stand corrected…Denny is correct.

I never noticed this rubber strip glued to the hardtop back in the day when I had a new CJ-7.

I removed it many times back then, but I never looked up under there.

Now I need to look under my early style seamless heavy hardtop, but it’s installed on my Jeep for now.

I have a beat-up late style lightweight hardtop with the seams, and it has the rubber seal still glued in place, just like Denny’s picture…See my picture.
Well here you go. Mine does have the T-handle lock and the pigtail harness coming out the bottom left corner of top but both wires are black. This top is NOT light. for what that is worth. Mine did have the rubberstrip across the inside top for sealing but no endcaps. 1 of the pics with the top on is of the first day it arrived to me attached to Jeep. the others are of it being cleaned and repairs made prior to painting. By all accounts the color of the top is Nutmeg which is correct for 82 and there were no signs of it ever being painted. Doesnt mean it wasnt but then if it was it was perfect!!! Either way I am not putting on those end caps. BTW this is not a concours type restoration. Let me know your verdict. Thanks for your input, Mike

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In 82 the hardtop is not plastic, and not light weight. They are heavy fiberglass 76-86.
The outside is completely smooth. No ribs or rsised where the rear seat starts.
76-79 and maybe up until 1980, the hardtops were one piece, injection molded, polycarbonate. Completely smooth on the outside.
After that, they became four piece fiberglass sections molded together at the factory. And will have horizontal seams by the side glass and vertical seam at the rear section.
 

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Wow, didnt mean to start anything. Pretty sure i got my answers on the seals for my 82 cj7 and according to keith460 above and Axhammer quote from previous post I have my answer about the top itself on my CJ
"#5 · May 5, 2022
That’s an OEM hardtop, it’s the later composition plastic, I forget what they called it, but it has the seams, and is much lighter than the first version hardtop that was much heavier, and seamless." Thanks once again, Mike
 

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Wow, didnt mean to start anything. Pretty sure i got my answers on the seals for my 82 cj7 and according to keith460 above and Axhammer quote from previous post I have my answer about the top itself on my CJ
"#5 · May 5, 2022
That’s an OEM hardtop, it’s the later composition plastic, I forget what they called it, but it has the seams, and is much lighter than the first version hardtop that was much heavier, and seamless." Thanks once again, Mike
You didn’t start anything…it’s all good.

Keith is only clearing the air on which years were different, and the composition of the hardtops, during the different changes. It’s good knowledge.

I have one of the early style HT’s and one of the later style HT’s.

The early ones were far heavier and more robust in design, but I am always on the lookout for a new style HT that’s in decent shape at a fair price.
 

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You didn’t start anything…it’s all good.

Keith is only clearing the air on the years and composition of the hardtops over the years.

I have one of the early style HT’s and one of the later style HT’s.
You didn’t , you and Keith set the record straight by identifying my hard top and I thank you both for all that you do and have done for all us “newbys” and the wealth of knowledge you guys share with us, thank you Mike
 
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