[orange150]

I'm converting my five bolt hubs to six bolt from an old drum brake CJ-5 donor. I'm attempting to put my rotors on the old CJ-5 hubs and for the life of me cannot get them to pull together. Is this normal for this conversion? My google-fu isn't helping me much today.

 

[orange150]

Whomp Whomp. Probably cost just as much to machine the parts as it would to buy new hubs from quadratec.
I'll hang on to the donor Warn hubs (already gone through them and cleaned them up) and slap the hub assemblies back on the CJ-5 axle and throw it on marketplace.

 

[orange150]

Alright. Got my new hubs in from Quadratec. I installed races, new bearings, pulled the old five bolt hardware off the Jeep and separated the discs and hubs, pressed the discs on the new six bolt hubs, put the new hub assembly on the axles, tightened down the spindle nuts, went to put on the Warn hubs... and they don't fit. The spindle nut is too big.

Is there a different spindle nut I'm supposed to have?? Is there anything else I should know before I pull things apart and put them back together for the third or fourth time?

 

[orange150]

This kind, Warn M(?)196:

 

[orange150]

2 of these. Special Lock Nut Warn Lock O Matic Hubs Only

And 2 of these Special Lock Washer Warn Lock O Matic Hubs Only

Oh, and they have the special little lock washers that were all mangled up!

Addendum to the last post:
Early Warn hubs use a direct drive clutch ring. This can make locking them in difficult and unlocking them sometimes damn near impossible (you can see where someone used a set of pliers on the hub face). If you are running a front traction device or use your four wheel drive a lot, I recommend a newer set of spring loaded hubs. If your loc o matics are complete and in working order, you can probably sell them for the price of a newer set.

The last few parts I need that @Fourtrail posted is $55.90 (or $73.90 with the special lock washers instead of standard split lock washers). Or Mile Marker hubs form Quadratec are $115. Or new Warn hubs are $285.59.
Is it really worth the extra money for new hubs?

 

[orange150]

I had no idea these locking hubs worked the way they do... dang. I think I'm going to pick up a set of 'normal' hubs. Man this cheap swap got expensive!

It’s probably cheaper to just go to the wrecking yard and grab hubs, rotors, spindles, and brake calipers off a F150 that has a D44.

I didn't know that was an option. I would assume you need the stub shaft as well? Or would that work with the CJ shafts?

 

[orange150]

Sell your automatic hubs to @Mike B77 for $50 and you are half way to the Mile Markers.

Warn Automatic Hub on 1978 CJ5

The conversion to the Ford hubs, and internal lockout hubs is going to cost you more than the price of the Warn premiums by the time that you buy all the parts, new caliper mounts, new calipers, pads and everything else. Yes you will also need the ford stub shafts.

Thanks @Fourtrail ! Looks like I'll be picking up the Mile Markers.. I'd really like the Warns, but sheesh they're proud of them.