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02-25-2017 09:01 PM
mattrowe Probably RC tech or someone. the one that they say requires a drop pittman arm also has the curve in it.
Will call one more time, then screw it, will buy the iron rock, or supreme suspensions.

Ok,finally talked to someone from RC who cleared up my confusion on the drop pittman.

The person said they just recommend a drop pittman for anything over 4 inch to prevent drag link binding.
02-24-2017 08:12 PM
bluejunior
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Originally Posted by mattrowe View Post
Like said, BFH, and some one holding a drift pin in a pair of channel locks, or a sawzall,cut both sides, then throw away and add new bolt.
Thanks, BJ, and yes the RC bracket lowers the TB some. It says it fits a 4 inch to 6.5 inch so it must be lower.
IRO's fits 3-8" without a drop pitman. I still feel like you're being talked into a drop pitman arm just so RC could sell the same bracket for XJ's and TJ's or some ****. There's no need for a drop pitman on the XJ at 4.5 unless you're dropping the track bar for no apparent reason. Just puts your steering lower for no good reason.
02-24-2017 07:47 PM
mattrowe Like said, BFH, and some one holding a drift pin in a pair of channel locks, or a sawzall,cut both sides, then throw away and add new bolt.
Thanks, BJ, and yes the RC bracket lowers the TB some. It says it fits a 4 inch to 6.5 inch so it must be lower.
02-24-2017 07:13 PM
bluejunior
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Originally Posted by DannyC1 View Post
Not trying to high jack this thread but I'm doing the same thing on my 96 and I can't get the bolt out of the back of the lower control arm. Any suggestions? The nut is off but the bolt is froze.

I'm replacing with Rough Country Lowers.
It's rust-welded to the metal sleeve in the Control arm bushing. Knock it out with a BFH. Might try heat in between beatings if it acts stubborn.
02-24-2017 05:18 PM
DannyC1
Lower Control arms 96 XJ

Not trying to high jack this thread but I'm doing the same thing on my 96 and I can't get the bolt out of the back of the lower control arm. Any suggestions? The nut is off but the bolt is froze.

I'm replacing with Rough Country Lowers.
02-23-2017 08:24 PM
bluejunior The curve is just to increase clearance.

The drop pitman arm would only apply if they have, for some reason, made the aftermarket trackbar mount lower than the stock mount. Track bar and drag link should be parallel to avoid binding during articulation, so if they move the track bar mount down for some reason that would require the drop pitman arm.

Again, the IRO double sheer is a superior part to the TRE style bars and doesn't require a drop pitman.
02-23-2017 06:13 PM
mattrowe I just want to make sure im buying the right parets in the first place. On rc website it says if you use their TB with the new bracket, and it has the curve in it, it needs a drop pitman arm. More money.

If i buy the one with the tie rod end, theres no mention of a drop pitman arm, but the Tb does not have the half circle like mine does.
Does anyone know for sure if the half circle in the TB has to be there, and if it is, does it require a drop pitman arm.
I will call up RC again and talk to a tech.

Im using the RC 4.5 inch lift.
I am waiting on a response from another manufacturer of track bars and off road parts.
anyone heard of supreme suspensions in Cali.
02-22-2017 02:50 PM
CJ7-Tim Go with the IRO double shear track bar, it is very beefy, and easy to install. Tie rod end track bars have a tendency to snap off the tie rod ends. There should be no reason and no need to drill or ream any mounting holes.
02-21-2017 08:54 PM
bluejunior
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ok, will go look right now, thanks.
I just watched a video from RC adding there 4.5 in x series on a stock jeep and they used a new tie rod end TB, not the one with a new bracket.
Makes me wonder why if the one with a bracket is stronger or better.

Just looked, the replaceable one with bracket definitely looks more like my bracket and it does have more metal for sure.
Even the stock one with the tie rod end is only $20 more and sounds better.
I will give them a call also.
Probably go with Iron Rock.
Because they like selling new tie rod ends for it? Idk.

It's not gonna fall apart instantly or anything. The TRE version just wears faster and will fail more dramatically than a double shear if pushed past its limits. In addition to having lower limits in the first place, I mean. You're dealing with a ball stud through one mount rather than a nice thick bolt with mounting on either end.
02-21-2017 08:24 PM
mattrowe ok, will go look right now, thanks.
I just watched a video from RC adding there 4.5 in x series on a stock jeep and they used a new tie rod end TB, not the one with a new bracket.
Makes me wonder why if the one with a bracket is stronger or better.

Just looked, the replaceable one with bracket definitely looks more like my bracket and it does have more metal for sure.
Even the stock one with the tie rod end is only $20 more and sounds better.
I will give them a call also.
Probably go with Iron Rock.
02-21-2017 07:54 PM
bluejunior
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Originally Posted by mattrowe View Post
Not really modifying but i would have to take off the old bracket and hope all the bolt holes line up, and from my previous mechanic jobs, all mounts dont line up perfect. So re-drilling might be necessary. And trying to re-drill or ream out holes under vehicles is not an easy job some times.

Ill call up RC and ask how good there mount is and if it has been tested for compatibility or any complaints of not exact fit.
When I looked at my bracket on mine, it looks twice as big at least for the little flimsy looking one with the track bar.
If you want a strong track bar, go Iron Rock Offroad. Their setup is beefy and has a lot of adjustment for build changes available.
02-21-2017 05:48 PM
mattrowe Not really modifying but i would have to take off the old bracket and hope all the bolt holes line up, and from my previous mechanic jobs, all mounts dont line up perfect. So re-drilling might be necessary. And trying to re-drill or ream out holes under vehicles is not an easy job some times.

Ill call up RC and ask how good there mount is and if it has been tested for compatibility or any complaints of not exact fit.
When I looked at my bracket on mine, it looks twice as big at least for the little flimsy looking one with the track bar.
02-20-2017 09:10 PM
bluejunior
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Originally Posted by mattrowe View Post

Why avoid the adjustable track bar with tie rod ends. Im asking because mine has the tie rod style and i am going to put the RC 4.5 inch lift and was going to buy an adjustable TB with the tie rod end since that is whats on mine now. If i buy the one with the bracket, i have a lot of modifying to do.
They're a hell of a lot weaker. Why would modifying be needed? The double shear kits come with a bracket that mounts up just like factory.
02-20-2017 07:53 PM
mattrowe
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Originally Posted by CJ7-Tim View Post
Read the older threads about lifting, your friend is trying to be helpful but has some bad info.

Drop pitman is not needed until you are at 6-8"

At 3" the stock control arms are OK, maybe lowers if you have the money.

Avoid any adjustable track bar that uses tie rod ends.

Engine/transmission skids aren't really needed unless you wheel on really big rocks.
Why avoid the adjustable track bar with tie rod ends. Im asking because mine has the tie rod style and i am going to put the RC 4.5 inch lift and was going to buy an adjustable TB with the tie rod end since that is whats on mine now. If i buy the one with the bracket, i have a lot of modifying to do.
08-31-2010 07:50 PM
D0dgeRam1500 I guess I keep on changing what I'm going to do lift wise. I can get a deal on a 3 inch BDS lift kit. They have a really nice warranty too. If I break any BDS part, they will replace it no questions asked. I have a question about the shocks though. I don't like lift company standard shocks but their upgraded ones are too expensive. I'm thinking of going with Bilstein 5150 series shocks but I don't know what size I need. So does anyone know what size shocks I need for my Jeep when I lift it 3 inches?
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