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11-09-2007 07:01 PM
marc1kim
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Originally Posted by dogbluedrummer
Ignore all the above advice, they are wrong.

You should buy a stock X model 4 banger, with 3.07 gears, a dana 35 rear end, and manual tranny. You would save a ton of money and get great gas mileage on the stock 28" tires. The rig will be too pathetic to wheel anything harder than an unpaved driveway.

However, you will have lots of time and spare cash to spend endless hours on this site trying to figure out what you want to do (need to do) to upgrade your jeep and how much it would cost.

In the end, you will have spent several thousands more than you should have and half of your mods will turn out to be non-optimal, useless, or just plain wrong.

Then, and only then, will you appreciate the value of starting with a Rubicon.
Uh, I think the X models come stock with the I-6. The SE models come with the four banger and 4.10 gears. (And they are very capable vehicles off road) But I agree, the Rubi will save you lots of headaches in the long run if you get more serious about off roading.
11-09-2007 08:43 AM
Mud Machine
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Originally Posted by dogbluedrummer

You should buy a stock X model 4 banger, with 3.07 gears, a dana 35 rear end, and manual tranny. You would save a ton of money and get great gas mileage on the stock 28" tires. The rig will be too pathetic to wheel anything harder than an unpaved driveway.

However, you will have lots of time and spare cash to spend endless hours on this site trying to figure out what you want to do (need to do) to upgrade your jeep and how much it would cost.

In the end, you will have spent several thousands more than you should have and half of your mods will turn out to be non-optimal, useless, or just plain wrong.

Then, and only then, will you appreciate the value of starting with a Rubicon.
X2 All the way!! These are words of wisdom and experience. Been there and done that all myself. Nicely said.
11-09-2007 07:14 AM
dogbluedrummer Ignore all the above advice, they are wrong.

You should buy a stock X model 4 banger, with 3.07 gears, a dana 35 rear end, and manual tranny. You would save a ton of money and get great gas mileage on the stock 28" tires. The rig will be too pathetic to wheel anything harder than an unpaved driveway.

However, you will have lots of time and spare cash to spend endless hours on this site trying to figure out what you want to do (need to do) to upgrade your jeep and how much it would cost.

In the end, you will have spent several thousands more than you should have and half of your mods will turn out to be non-optimal, useless, or just plain wrong.

Then, and only then, will you appreciate the value of starting with a Rubicon.
11-09-2007 06:23 AM
MadManMIke If your looking for gas mileage your not gonna find it in a Rubi --I get 11-12 in town and MAYBE 15 on the highway if I keep my foot out of it. When Im wheelin I get maybe 8.
Im getting ready to put a lift on it as Im tired of dragging in the rocks.
11-09-2007 04:24 AM
DogHouse
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Originally Posted by bman9089
We're not ragging on people that wheel lightly. hell, I wheel lightly too. I don't have the funds to replace parts, plus I don't wheel for a challenge, I do it to relax. Breaking stuff isn't relaxing.

We just rag on those who pay $10,000 more for a vehicle and don't wheel AT ALL.
Even a Rubi on a light trail wouldn't bother me. Not at all. At least they're using it. That's the whole point.
This is exactly what i'm talking about! No one said you had to break your sh*t! But why waste your money on an expensive mall crawler??? The breakage thing is not my intentions but if it happens it happens that's my choice and my Jeep. I'm not telling you how to wheel your Jeep just wheel it! I can respect the fact you don't want to break anything and if just riding light trails is good for you that's great but no one likes a poser!

When i went and bought my Black Rubi i was in the market for the silver one and I'll be damned if mommy didn't come in and buy it for her daughter who looked like she didn't even know how to shift gears as she left the parking lot. Eh screw it it's your money buy what ya want!
11-08-2007 10:40 PM
KINGZ The bug bites hard, I bought my Stocker X back in june, dump about $2700+ in upgrades into since then and have yet to buy a suspen lift kit for it. Now I'm wanting to buy an 03 rubi, so I can put a 383 stroker in it and use that for wheeling and leave my X as my DD as is. Now if I can just find a good price 2003-2004 stock rubi with a NFG motor.

I would not buy the rubi unless you are planning on realllly beating it hard and doing something other than just mudding, I finaly took my X out last month on a man made obstical corse at jeeptoberfest and I was shock at what it could do.
11-08-2007 10:19 PM
marc1kim
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Originally Posted by tamersinger
anything I should know?
Yeah, make sure that it IS a Rubicon. I think awhile back here we saw a Wrangler X with rubicon stickers on it.
11-08-2007 09:58 PM
bman9089
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Originally Posted by Laxstar46
some of you guys I think forget that not only does owning a jeep cost money but wheeling can get very expensive as well. Not gonna lie i'm afraid to wheel mine and break stuff. I don't have the money to be just throwing it out on repairs I could have easily avoided so mebbe just chill out on people that don't go all out like you people do.
We're not ragging on people that wheel lightly. hell, I wheel lightly too. I don't have the funds to replace parts, plus I don't wheel for a challenge, I do it to relax. Breaking stuff isn't relaxing.

We just rag on those who pay $10,000 more for a vehicle and don't wheel AT ALL.

Even a Rubi on a light trail wouldn't bother me. Not at all. At least they're using it. That's the whole point.
11-08-2007 09:20 PM
nevadamike
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Originally Posted by Laxstar46
some of you guys I think forget that not only does owning a jeep cost money but wheeling can get very expensive as well. Not gonna lie i'm afraid to wheel mine and break stuff. I don't have the money to be just throwing it out on repairs I could have easily avoided so mebbe just chill out on people that don't go all out like you people do.
That's true but you don't have to go out there and do the hard or extream stuff just go out there. I'm about as poor as it gets right now, and I still wheel mine, but on the other hand **** happens I just had to buy a new radiator fenders and bumper from wheeling
11-08-2007 08:57 PM
Laxstar46 some of you guys I think forget that not only does owning a jeep cost money but wheeling can get very expensive as well. Not gonna lie i'm afraid to wheel mine and break stuff. I don't have the money to be just throwing it out on repairs I could have easily avoided so mebbe just chill out on people that don't go all out like you people do.
11-08-2007 08:49 PM
tamersinger umm Im not gonna have any money for a gas sipper

my 93 blazer 2 door gets 11 mpg....so i know the rubi will get more just looking at what to expect thats all....

ill be running the mtr's until i get it payed off (gonna be a 10g loan...) or till they wear out and then put a 3 inch lift on it and 285's
11-08-2007 08:39 PM
bman9089
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Originally Posted by DogHouse
X2 I know someone who bought a Rubi and she barely uses it because she's afraid to break it? Even though there are at least five other Rubis with all the spares to repair whatever breaks on it.
Hah.

I was friends with a girl a year ago before she moved who had a rubi with all the works, including a snorkel. She got her parents to buy it for her. That thing was a beast, but I guarantee my stock sport saw more dirt and mud than that rubi ever did. What a shame, I would have been glad to trade with her.

I used to give her crap (EDIT: tease her) when I saw her in the parking lot on the occassional days, once or twice a year, that it was dirty.
11-08-2007 08:36 PM
bman9089 well, i doubt, unless you find a great deal or a really cheap gas sipper that paying for a car and insurance will be less money than just paying for gas.

If your commutes are going to be long, even though I really hate to see A/Ts on a rubi, I understand some people need them for long commutes therefore you might want them.
11-08-2007 08:04 PM
tamersinger oh Im gonna use it....but right now I need relieable transprotation

Ive got a wheeler that I take to uwharrie national forest now just looking to get one vehicle before i got to college
11-08-2007 08:00 PM
DogHouse
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Originally Posted by bman9089
IMO, unless you are really planning on wheeling it, I'd get a cheaper model (X,SE,Sahara,Sport) with a D44 and build that up.

It would just be a waste to buy a vehicle with a 4:1 t-case and lockers front and rear if you aren't going to use it.

It's just irritating to see people buy the rubicon and complain about the rough, noisy MTRs and bad gas mileage.

Just know why you're buying it before you buy it.
X2 I know someone who bought a Rubi and she barely uses it because she's afraid to break it? Even though there are at least five other Rubis with all the spares to repair whatever breaks on it.
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