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Yesterday 05:41 PM
NashvilleTJ Canít wait - we might be more excited than you to see that beast in the dirt.
Yesterday 02:10 PM
tbunch Got a couple more pics of the exhaust, not great pics, but it’s something. I need to have it coated or painted with header paint since it’s not all stainless.
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I also got my LED lights in, they look so much better so I’m excited!
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Then I also got this package of goodies in the mail today!
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Pretty stoked to get it in and see how it changes stuff. Hoping this one is enough, if I have to add a front one I can do so once the funds have rebounded.

Unless I run into some major complications I should be ready to do some trail testing this weekend. Not gonna go if things aren’t ready though.
07-01-2020 10:41 PM
RAMMJETT Wow what a build , nice job ..
07-01-2020 04:17 PM
tbunch Thanks coggsdsmt

So I’ve here’s kinda where I’m at. I’ve spoken at length to the guys at busted knuckle, the folks at accutune, my local fab shop and some buddies and have come to a few conclusions.

First and foremost, I need a sway bar. There just isn’t an easy way around this one. I spoke to Tony at TK1 racing and settled on a 42” rock crawler bar with 16” arms. And pulled the trigger. He was pretty convinced I didn’t need the double shear kit for my setup. Hopefully it comes soon so I can get it in and really do some testing.

Then there is the ride height. I got all kinds of suggestions on this, from moving my mounting locations, to changing to 14’s to running tender coils, several different spring rates and heigh calculations. And so on.

To rule a few things out I re-measured and re-ran all my measurements through the 4 and 3 link calculators. This let me see if there were any glaring link geometry issues that needed to be resolved. Fortunately the numbers looked great. I’m at 84% AS in back and 89% up front. And my roll axis angles are not bad, -1 in back (perfect) and 4.3 up front. The front will contribute to oversteer and body lean, but not by much.

So what I have done for now is this. I went somewhat against the grain and relieved much of my spring preload. Currently I have about .25-.5” of preload on all the springs. It’s definitely lower than I should be running, but it accomplishes the ride height I need and since my axles have limit straps I don’t think I’ll ever be in a situation where I don’t have more actual downforce on the spring than just the preload.

I have also lowered the adjuster nuts to an inch above the slider so that the dual rate comes into effect sooner. Easy to change if it’s too soon.

In all I was able to lose just over 1” on ride height. And it’s honestly about perfect. When I get in it it still leans, but only 1.5 degrees. Not terrible. I’ll probably add some additional pre-load on the driver side just to hold it level when I’m in it alone.

Other things to do eventually is change the shock valving so it has better control. I can also go with a tender coil in the rear and use slightly heavier springs which will help more with lean and load capacity. For now though I’m going to try it with the sway bar and see where I’m at.

This is a more tedious process than I thought, but I want to try and do it correctly. In reality I should have used a 14” coilover or air shocks, but live and learn.

On the plus side my buddy gave me some nice LED headlights he had from an old project that will be a nice upgrade to my old ones!
07-01-2020 09:55 AM
coggsdsmt Love the tube work!! Damn I need a bender...
06-30-2020 07:20 AM
MrPink42
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Problem is lack of funds to fill said offshore account... plus the wife is an accountant who balances everything to the penny every month... No sneaking around that! 🙂

You forgot all the random other colors going into my scheme, red silver and black, but then 40 year old off white, still unpainted steel, dirt and about 3 variants of black! Haha, she definitely will need a bit of paint lovin at some point, but I want to make sure everything is working right before I freshen her up.

And yellow is still loved, all the love to yellow Jeeps!
I told my wife when i get my TJ i am not getting a Yellow one lmao. i like yellow but not on a vehicle. i am leaning towards white, dark blue, green or black.
06-29-2020 07:02 PM
tbunch Problem is lack of funds to fill said offshore account... plus the wife is an accountant who balances everything to the penny every month... No sneaking around that! 🙂

You forgot all the random other colors going into my scheme, red silver and black, but then 40 year old off white, still unpainted steel, dirt and about 3 variants of black! Haha, she definitely will need a bit of paint lovin at some point, but I want to make sure everything is working right before I freshen her up.

And yellow is still loved, all the love to yellow Jeeps!
06-29-2020 05:29 PM
NashvilleTJ
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Originally Posted by MrPink42 View Post
Awesome build man. i am liking the red/black/silver more so than the red/yellow/black combo.

Whoa - Whatís wrong with yellow/black?

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06-29-2020 01:24 PM
MrPink42 Awesome build man. i am liking the red/black/silver more so than the red/yellow/black combo.
06-29-2020 11:25 AM
NashvilleTJ Two words for you guys - offshore account. [emoji846]
06-29-2020 08:56 AM
'92 vegas YJ
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and Iím basically out of Jeep money if I want to keep my marriage intact haha.
I've been there before. That's how it was during my 2 year build on mine. I got tired of spending money myself too. It just seems no matter how much money you throw at it, something else comes up that needs just a little more.
06-29-2020 08:04 AM
tbunch
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Originally Posted by 87TPIYJ View Post
Sway bars are a must for coilovers. Remember your springs will settle a little bit. I would look at TK1 double sheer sway bar since you have so much travel. Try sway bars first do a wheeling trip or two and see how much it settles before changing.
The TK1 setup is what I’m planning on going with, heard lots of good things and they are well priced. I will still likely go with tender coils though since I really want to get the ride height down, i just don’t need 6” of uptravel. If I shave 2” off then it’s going to make me much happier.

I ultimately I need to make up my mind on springs as soon as possible as I’m only able to swap them out at no cost if they remain in like-new condition. Basically if they get marred up then I have to re-buy them.. and I’m basically out of Jeep money if I want to keep my marriage intact haha. That’s also why I haven’t jumped to buy the sway bar stuff yet.
06-29-2020 07:09 AM
87TPIYJ Sway bars are a must for coilovers. Remember your springs will settle a little bit. I would look at TK1 double sheer sway bar since you have so much travel. Try sway bars first do a wheeling trip or two and see how much it settles before changing.
06-28-2020 12:50 PM
tbunch
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I can’t recall, but are you running sway bars?
Not currently, I will likely need to add and anti-rock in the rear.

I’m going to talk to accutune tomorrow to double check my numbers, but what I’m thinking is that if I add tendercoils I can go negative on preload to lower the ride height by 2.5”, that will lower my COG significantly but still leave me about 4” uptravel. This will also flatten my links since my front is at 11.2 degrees at ride height which adds to the problem. Then I may also swap back to slightly firmer springs that will better control the torque lean and help with load carrying capacity so it doesn’t lean so hard with uneven weight (1 passenger vs 2 etc).

The more I read the more common it is to have a low geared, light rig dealing with this, but it can be solved. A sway bar, or 2 will be added if cheaper tuning and adjustments can’t get it under control enough, but I’m going to try and tune the problem out or down if I can first.
06-28-2020 07:56 AM
NashvilleTJ I canít recall, but are you running sway bars?
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