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Today 11:48 AM
Ralph77 So I used some of that rust converter stuff, Duplicolor Rust Fix, and it did turn what little bit of rust left that was black yesterday.
Waited the 24 hours and painted it today. Just used some primer, black paint, and clear coat (no idea why I clear coated it)
that I had around.
Let it dry, then get the seat cleaned up best I can, and get my seat cover on it.
Maybe tomorrow.
Today 05:32 AM
Ralph77
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Originally Posted by RedJeepster1 View Post
Yes, if I were to do it again and wasn’t getting a killer deal on a set locally, that is what I would do.
OK like I said one more thing for the list. LOL.
You know I value your opinion.
Thanks for all the insight.
Today 05:29 AM
RedJeepster1
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Originally Posted by Ralph77 View Post

OK. Say basically you are saying buy the IRO ones and cut off the lip?

Yes, if I were to do it again and wasn’t getting a killer deal on a set locally, that is what I would do.



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Today 05:27 AM
Ralph77
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Originally Posted by RedJeepster1 View Post
Unfortunately no, you do not. That is the one thing I don't really like about these. Something I have to figure out in the next day or two is how to reattach the E brake cable bracket. It's currently zip tied up, but that won't work long term.

I run the IRO stiffeners on the silver Jeep and I think they are more thought out. They leave the factory holes open, they fit nice, and they add a ton of strength. What I don't like about those is the lip on the top edge of the stiffeners. I ended up cutting it off so I could weld to the frame, not the floor pan.

The HD Offroad stiffeners were easier to install because I didn't have to cut anything, but they cover up the factory holes leaving no access for the factory recover points or things like that brake cable bracket.
When I saw the lip on the IRO ones I went back and looked at your pictures cause I did not really see a lip.
OK. Say basically you are saying buy the IRO ones and cut off the lip?
Know why you bought the HD ones though when you had the chance.
Figure it was about 1/2 price.
Today 05:19 AM
RedJeepster1
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Originally Posted by Ralph77 View Post
Do you still have access to uni-body holes with those like the Iron Rock ones say you do?
The last thing in the description is what caught my eye.

Features:
3/16 plate steel
Weld on design
Plug weld holes
Retains access to all unibody holes
Unfortunately no, you do not. That is the one thing I don't really like about these. Something I have to figure out in the next day or two is how to reattach the E brake cable bracket. It's currently zip tied up, but that won't work long term.

I run the IRO stiffeners on the silver Jeep and I think they are more thought out. They leave the factory holes open, they fit nice, and they add a ton of strength. What I don't like about those is the lip on the top edge of the stiffeners. I ended up cutting it off so I could weld to the frame, not the floor pan.

The HD Offroad stiffeners were easier to install because I didn't have to cut anything, but they cover up the factory holes leaving no access for the factory recover points or things like that brake cable bracket.
Today 05:14 AM
Ralph77
Quote:
Originally Posted by RedJeepster1 View Post
I did not do full stiffeners on this Jeep. Just the mids. Honestly the mid stiffeners make a huge difference. Since this Jeep is 98% street driven, I'm not too worried about doing the rest of it. I just recently cleaned up both the front frame horns and dropped the fuel tank in the rear to clean everything up and paint it, so this whole Jeep is in pretty decent shape now.

These are the stiffeners I am using. I picked them up "used" meaning someone purchased them but never installed for I think $75 a year or two ago.

HD Offroad Engineering Frame Stiffeners

The fit was good. They aren't as thick as some others, but still thicker than the stock "frame". They clearly add a lot of strength because there was a noticeable different driving the Jeep. It's a pretty **** job to do on the Jeep though. It's just a lot of work on the ground rolling on your back getting covered in sparks.
Do you still have access to uni-body holes with those like the Iron Rock ones say you do?
The last thing in the description is what caught my eye.

Features:
3/16 plate steel
Weld on design
Plug weld holes
Retains access to all unibody holes
Today 05:09 AM
RedJeepster1
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Originally Posted by Ralph77 View Post
It just occurred to me that you that you might not have done bumper to bumper just before you posted the above.
Should have realized that cause you did it so quickly. DUH. LOL.
So just these then?

https://www.ironrockoffroad.com/prod...r-section.html

Which ones did you use?
I like those cause it seems like I could still Fluid Film inside my uni-body like I do.
I did not do full stiffeners on this Jeep. Just the mids. Honestly the mid stiffeners make a huge difference. Since this Jeep is 98% street driven, I'm not too worried about doing the rest of it. I just recently cleaned up both the front frame horns and dropped the fuel tank in the rear to clean everything up and paint it, so this whole Jeep is in pretty decent shape now.

These are the stiffeners I am using. I picked them up "used" meaning someone purchased them but never installed for I think $75 a year or two ago.

HD Offroad Engineering Frame Stiffeners

The fit was good. They aren't as thick as some others, but still thicker than the stock "frame". They clearly add a lot of strength because there was a noticeable different driving the Jeep. It's a pretty **** job to do on the Jeep though. It's just a lot of work on the ground rolling on your back getting covered in sparks.
Today 05:02 AM
Ralph77
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Originally Posted by RedJeepster1 View Post
It honestly was surprising to me. My silver Jeep is stiffened bumper to bumper and drives great, but I never drive that Jeep before I stiffened it. I bought it bone stock with no engine and the first time I ever drove it was fully stiffened with long arms and 35’s.

This Jeep is my fiancé’s daily driver. She’s been driving it for years as is. And the stiffeners definitely quieted it down and also made the ride feel much more solid. The suspension is doing all the work now, not the body.
It just occurred to me that you that you might not have done bumper to bumper just before you posted the above.
Should have realized that cause you did it so quickly. DUH. LOL.
So just these center pieces then?

https://www.ironrockoffroad.com/prod...r-section.html

Which ones did you use?
I like those cause it seems like I could still Fluid Film inside my uni-body like I do.
Today 04:57 AM
RedJeepster1
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Originally Posted by Ralph77 View Post
Not that I have done much research on frame stiffeners but I like the idea of the seam sealer and undercoating.
Especially with the undercoating making them look like they are not even there.

So "wayyy" better on the road now.
One more thing for the wish list now I guess.
Damn you. LOL.


It honestly was surprising to me. My silver Jeep is stiffened bumper to bumper and drives great, but I never drive that Jeep before I stiffened it. I bought it bone stock with no engine and the first time I ever drove it was fully stiffened with long arms and 35’s.

This Jeep is my fiancé’s daily driver. She’s been driving it for years as is. And the stiffeners definitely quieted it down and also made the ride feel much more solid. The suspension is doing all the work now, not the body.


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Today 04:52 AM
Ralph77
Quote:
Originally Posted by RedJeepster1 View Post
Finished up the blue Jeep yesterday morning. Seam sealed around the stiffeners to hopefully keep the moisture out, primed, then covered in undercoat.
We then decided to take the Jeep up to Mansfield Hollow with the canoe. Jeep feels wayyy more solid on the road. I was surprised how much of a difference there was. No more creaks or pops. I was impressed.
Not that I have done much research on frame stiffeners but I like the idea of the seam sealer and undercoating.
Especially with the undercoating making them look like they are not even there.

So "wayyy" better on the road now.
One more thing for the wish list now I guess.
Damn you. LOL.
Today 04:46 AM
RedJeepster1 Finished up the blue Jeep yesterday morning. Seam sealed around the stiffeners to hopefully keep the moisture out, primed, then covered in undercoat.





We then decided to take the Jeep up to Mansfield Hollow with the canoe. Jeep feels wayyy more solid on the road. I was surprised how much of a difference there was. No more creaks or pops. I was impressed.




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Yesterday 01:35 PM
retrvrtrainer Working on leaf springs. Slow work and rather painful at times, but it will be worth it...I hope.
Yesterday 11:27 AM
Ralph77
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Originally Posted by pdcomm View Post
I wouldn't spray the deck or the chuck with anything other than rust remover .
Those should always be left clean metal for best results .

Maybe clean the rust and a good wipe down with an oil soaked rag .
Naval Jelly and a keeping it oiled it is.
Thanks.
Yesterday 09:11 AM
pdcomm
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Originally Posted by Ralph77 View Post
I didn't really think about that.
Not a bad idea. I do have some.
Maybe just spray it with some of the rust converter I bought for the rear seat legs and top coat.
Maybe I will just POR 15 it next time I have to POR 15 something.
I wouldn't spray the deck or the chuck with anything other than rust remover .
Those should always be left clean metal for best results .

Maybe clean the rust and a good wipe down with an oil soaked rag .
07-04-2020 03:49 PM
Ralph77
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Originally Posted by pdcomm View Post
Looks like it would be real happy if you treated it to a mess of Naval Jelly .
I didn't really think about that.
Not a bad idea. I do have some.
Maybe just spray it with some of the rust converter I bought for the rear seat legs and top coat.
Maybe I will just POR 15 it next time I have to POR 15 something.
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