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02-03-2016 01:45 PM
79cj7amc304auto A regear, wheels and tires alone are close to half that "savings" so those alone were worth it right out of the gate. No way I'd of been happy on 31s and ugly stock wheels. I use my lockers quite a bit so I'm not disappointed at all in my decision to just get a ruby. The monthly pmts went up less than $100 from what I remember. Big deal!!!! Anyone can come up w $100 a month. Especially when ur already at 80% of my pmts no matter what.
02-03-2016 12:13 PM
bondo78
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Originally Posted by JIMBOX View Post
I use my Rubi attributes almost weekly for almost 8 years--

Wouldn't have any less-

JIMBO
I have absolutely zero problems with any other model / trims, but for what I do - the gears, lockers and the sway disconnects would be huge.
02-03-2016 10:33 AM
JIMBOX You just have to be happy with your jeep and that's all that counts-


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Originally Posted by justin credible View Post
I have never regretted saving $10k+ and going with the Sport.

Every once in a while I wish I had the e-lockers of the Rubicon, but with smart/careful driving my Sport has never let me down.
If you saved 10k by not getting a Rubi--you weren't shopping very well and-

I use my Rubi attributes almost weekly for almost 8 years--

Wouldn't have any less-

JIMBO
02-03-2016 10:13 AM
justin credible I have never regretted saving $10k+ and going with the Sport.

Every once in a while I wish I had the e-lockers of the Rubicon, but with smart/careful driving my Sport has never let me down.
02-03-2016 10:13 AM
bondo78
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Originally Posted by JIMBOX View Post
YA lays yer money and ya take yer chances--

The 3.8l is a very good engine with decades of good history and Chrysler just putit in the jeep with WRONG tranny/gearing-

The pentastar engine isn't much better than the 3.8l, but the improved auto tranny is the key improvement for the newer jeeps-

Your money is the answer, if you can find a 07/11 3.8 Rubi/w a stick tranny and that's what you want--getit, if it has an auto--you'll have to change gearing if you want to be really satisfied-

A newer one 12/16 will have the better auto, but you're gonna find problems anyway-

Let your wallet/wife be your guide !

Good luck

JIMBO
Thank you... I'm certainly leaning 3.8 and Superchips. Substantial cost difference. I do want the automatic, but the tuner does wonders for that as well.
02-03-2016 10:07 AM
JIMBOX YA lays yer money and ya take yer chances--

The 3.8l is a very good engine with decades of good history and Chrysler just putit in the jeep with WRONG tranny/gearing-

The pentastar engine isn't much better than the 3.8l, but the improved auto tranny is the key improvement for the newer jeeps-

Your money is the answer, if you can find a 07/11 3.8 Rubi/w a stick tranny and that's what you want--getit, if it has an auto--you'll have to change gearing if you want to be really satisfied-

A newer one 12/16 will have the better auto, but you're gonna find problems anyway-

Let your wallet/wife be your guide !

Good luck

JIMBO
02-03-2016 09:34 AM
bondo78 I'm in a similar situation. I've definitely decided to get a Rubicon, but I'm curious if I should save some money and get a 07-11 with the 3.8 and get a Superchips tuner, or up the price and get a 12 or newer with the Pentastar. Money IS an issue, and I do know what a dog the 3.8 can be, but I also know what a tune can do for it.

Also, what about the heads on the 12 model Pentastars?
02-03-2016 07:57 AM
JIMBOX Sorry, this society has always been a have/havenots, but


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Originally Posted by tallica8402 View Post
Yea, I cant afford a Rubicon; unless it is used. Honestly either way I go, it's gonna have to a be a used one, but I can afford one that has low miles. I really do appreciate everyone's input. My buddy just got an AEV Rubicon, thats super nice. But way to much for me to afford.
Bite the bullet and take your time looking for a good deal on a jeep that you're really pleased with, doesn't have to be a rubi first--you may modify it over time, or decide to getta Rubi later--you'll just have fun and learn what she needs --

Good luck

JIMBO
02-03-2016 01:13 AM
tallica8402 Yea, I cant afford a Rubicon; unless it is used. Honestly either way I go, it's gonna have to a be a used one, but I can afford one that has low miles. I really do appreciate everyone's input. My buddy just got an AEV Rubicon, thats super nice. But way to much for me to afford.
02-02-2016 05:28 PM
jwmbishop I'm with you on the cash in hand thing - I just pointed out the Rubi transfer cuz that's where I hear a lot of guys bemoan their decision later (they had no intention of climbing the mountain until the mountain appeared in front of them) - but also the guy who wants to go Atlas 5:1 later (after struggling at 2:1 watching the 4:1 do so well) is happy he didn't buy a Rubi!
02-01-2016 08:47 PM
18Fox20 Fair enough. BLD and LSD have been sufficient over the last 8 years for my purposes. I get that aftermarket mods don't yield much return on resale, but that assumes that you even need them. I'm not going to tell the OP what his needs are or if they will change. Mine did not.

Rubicon is an incredible machine, and I would have never even had an opportunity to exploit it. That $5k extra would have just sat unused in lockers, suspension components, and a front D44. More than 30k is my personal breakpoint, and buying used Wranglers just scares me unless I know the previous owner. Both arguments make sense, but I'd rather have cash in hand/invested. Rubicon is not for everyone.
02-01-2016 08:58 AM
79cj7amc304auto
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Originally Posted by 18Fox20
It is undeniable that a Rubicon is the better choice if you are going to do hardcore off-roading, but the OP made it clear that he was not. I've come to realize that for snowy roads, trails, and pastures that I did not need to spend $ on tempting upgrades to my former CJ, TJ, or LJ. What I did find most useful was a quality safari top, bedliner, and tires. Got my $ worth out of those items regularly. If I was rich I'd get a Rubicon AND all the aforementioned items, but I had to choose. Again, just my take. Spend your $ how you want.
The OP made it clear that he's new to the jeep world so his intended uses can change very quickly. I just wouldn't wanna be stuck with a 34k jeep that can't do what I want it to do without major mods (or do it as easy) when I could have bought a jk for a few bucks more. Seriously if a few thousand bucks is a major concern, then maybe someone should consider a used jeep or something different altogether.
01-31-2016 08:28 PM
JIMBOX Nope the Rubi is the better choice if you wanna start with the best/warranty'd/outfitted jeep/w NO DOWN TIME, or additional CASH, You can start with that as your base and go from there-the only thing I've discarded from my Rubi--in 7-1/2 tears, is the 4.10 gears and they aren't even Rubi !

It's still the best financial jeep purchase, whether you use the attributes or not--when you sellit--you won't lose much money, compared to one you "MODIFY" !

Wharever

JIMBO
01-31-2016 07:20 PM
18Fox20 It is undeniable that a Rubicon is the better choice if you are going to do hardcore off-roading, but the OP made it clear that he was not. I've come to realize that for snowy roads, trails, and pastures that I did not need to spend $ on tempting upgrades to my former CJ, TJ, or LJ. What I did find most useful was a quality safari top, bedliner, and tires. Got my $ worth out of those items regularly. If I was rich I'd get a Rubicon AND all the aforementioned items, but I had to choose. Again, just my take. Spend your $ how you want.
01-30-2016 09:36 PM
79cj7amc304auto
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Originally Posted by jwmbishop
Just keep in mind if you ever DO want to have higher capability later... only the Rubi brings an OEM 4:1 transfer.
Shortly after I bought my Rubi I was kicking myself bcs I thought I made a mistake by buying vs upgrading. But after almost three years I am SO glad I went Rubi. I can't lie... I wouldn't have as capable a jeep as I do right now. I'm lazy like that. My interests changed quickly and it's nice to upgrade the Rubi as a starting platform. Just the gears, lockers, transfer case and d44 front would eat up a big chunk of your savings. If ur not planning to go full out ridiculous like d60s, 37"+ tires, new drivetrain and such... Then a rubicon is nicely built and probably a good decision worth considering. Resale value alone will save ur *** big time if you decide jeeping is just not for you later on down the road. You can sell in a few years for 7-9k more than a standard sport. Spend now and save later is my recommendation.
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