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11-26-2014 05:13 PM
DreadPirateLord The rust is a major problem around here, even with me expanding search to Nj.
If I find one that is solid in body, it needs too much mechanical and vise versa.
Going to look at a 97 on Sunday with about 185,000 needs new power steering pump and brakes.
Asking $ 1,800 we shall see what this one brings!
11-25-2014 09:00 AM
Todd951968 The 4.0 inline 6 cyl has a reputation for durability but several that I have known of (not owned) have had blown head gaskets. Also, in PA , you have to really look for rust--as others have said.
11-23-2014 12:16 PM
DreadPirateLord Thanks again for the imput as always.
As I tried to ask more questions, seller fell out of contact.
Guess he had something to hide!
11-22-2014 06:51 AM
WDNewman
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From what I was told it was parked as soon as issues arose, it was only used for camping trips.
Was told when he decided to sell it, a couple of days ago he topped off the oil before he attempted to start it to be safe.
Said it fired right up, promptly turned it off after.
Really torn, getting a lot of mixed feedback from here and another forum...
1. Being used only for camping trips is not a factor here and means nothing.

2. Topping off the oil does not make anything safe if the oil pump is bad.

3. "Firing right up" also means little or nothing.

What is of concern is whether or not engine damage occurred when issues arose.
This should be determined by an experienced mechanic with a Jeep background.
A compression test will show possible valve/piston damage. The lower end could also have damage but the mech should check that.

Bottom line is that you (or anyone else) should not drive this jeep until it is repaired. Worst case scenario is that the engine will require rebuild/replacement.
Figure a minimum of $3k for that.

As I said prior, there are too many of these on the market to take a chance on one that has possible major damage. Walk away from this and keep looking.
11-21-2014 07:28 AM
DreadPirateLord From what I was told it was parked as soon as issues arose, it was only used for camping trips.
Was told when he decided to sell it, a couple of days ago he topped off the oil before he attempted to start it to be safe.
Said it fired right up, promptly turned it off after.
Really torn, getting a lot of mixed feedback from here and another forum...
11-21-2014 07:00 AM
WDNewman "Bad" oil pumps are rare, but I suppose it could happen, even at 85k miles.
The question is: how much damage was done to the engine when the pump went bad?
An engine doesn't run very long without oil. And even though putting in a new oil pump is
not a major repair, replacing the engine would be. How did he know the oil pump was bad?
Was it low oil pressure or did the engine seize up or blow?
You would have to replace the oil pump before you could even test drive the thing, so I would
tell the owner to put in a new oil pump so that you could base your decision on how it drives
rather than how it looks. If he refuses, keep looking. There are tons of these things out there.
No reason at all to settle for one that has problems of any kind.
11-20-2014 06:32 PM
DreadPirateLord Okay Jeepers.
So I think my wait might have been worth it.
Came across an ad for a 2001 with only 85000 miles, the bad is guy says it has a bad oil pump?
Is it that hard to fix or replace, could it have led to or caused any other issues.
This seems like a great deal, want the facts from the experts!
11-18-2014 04:33 PM
DreadPirateLord Thanks for the vote of confidence.
Have to day I have learned more than I thought I would.
So now I continue the search and add a couple of extra bucks to the pot!
However, still open to tips and suggestions!
Or if anyone has a Jeep at a starter price in my area...
lol
11-17-2014 06:55 AM
WDNewman As the search continues, your education will also. You have the intelligence to
walk away from dangerous situations and poor product. You will do fine!

Keep us posted.
11-16-2014 07:04 AM
DreadPirateLord So sadly I went yesterday to only realize that I am pretty sure I got scammed.
Drove to the place and never saw the Jeep when I got there.
Parked exactly where pictures were taken, so the location was correct (was a bit dodgy of a neighborhood), text the guy to see where he was or where to meet.
Took about 10 minutes for him to reply, just gave me the address again.
Told him I was already there and did not see anyone at the address he gave me, let alone a Jeep (it was a complex of sorts, I got there early to look at Jeep a bit on my own. I drove the whole damn place and checked every lot).
Almost 10 minutes later texts me back with am I ready and do I see the Jeep.
At that point I was getting a bad read on the place, also had my kid with so I chalked it up to a loss.
Knew it seemed to good to be true.
However, on the drive home I saw a 2000 in a used car lot had 179,725 on it.
Followed all adive and instincts and am proud to say I drove my first Cherokee.
Sadly my first ride was in a P.O.S, lol the thing was rough...
And I am not talking Rough Country.
The body needed minimum work, rockers.
However the engine and trans were poorly taken care of.
So the search continues...
11-14-2014 07:25 PM
DreadPirateLord Great.
Good things to look for and know.
I have heard and read a couple of different methods on the 4×4, figured I would ask people who have actually drove one, lol.
11-14-2014 06:57 PM
jay-h There's certainly nothing wrong with not knowing mechanical details (everyone starts out that way).

The thing is unfortunately, that there is subtlety in evaluating a car. The difference in sound between a slightly loose tappet (not serious) and a wrist pin (fairly substantial engine repair) is hard to describe unless you have heard them. But there are good vids on youtube, pay attention to the sounds, and the overall feel of the vehicle.

The price is decent if the body is healthy (that you can see). Use your best judgement, and allow for the fact that there will be some repairs required.
11-14-2014 06:57 PM
Jason Same as any other used car -- rust, rot, leaks, damage, odd sounds, odd smells, haunting, demonic possessions, etc., etc.

The upper shock mount and the other things I mentioned are things I've encountered in the past.

Not heard that about the hood latch though. TJs can rot and dry out because they are rubber.

For the 4x4, find a gravel parking lot and pull the lever and drive slowly while turning a little. You should feel the steering wheel fight you a little bit. Don't make a habit of using 4x4 on hard dry surfaces as it will accelerate wear on the system.
11-14-2014 06:45 PM
DreadPirateLord Sadly, am the most mechanically inclined out of my circle of friends.
The guy who does brakes and oil changes and is will to scroll threads and watch videos to do upkeep.
I know some othe the basics, but that is mostly on cars.
Most of it is universal from what I understand, but this being a truck and something I am not familiar with made me want to ask a panel of experts.
11-14-2014 06:40 PM
jay-h Biggest thing to look for is rust. That is the ONE thing you can't fix.

It really wouldn't hurt to bring someone knowledgeable with you.
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