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11-26-2013 11:08 AM
DeGusipe In the mean time if anyone in the southwest pa region is looking for old but good parts off of my 4 cylinder please let me know. I have 2 transmissions an engine, a transfer case, drive shafts, etc.
11-26-2013 09:49 AM
JFM626
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Originally Posted by DeGusipe View Post
Yes, anything I need is available off of the 4.0 jeep.
Sounds like you now have a winter project! Have fun, and be safe.
11-26-2013 08:53 AM
RICEKILA
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Originally Posted by DeGusipe View Post
Very nice.
This was the guy -- I did the "Great Seat Exchange" with

I was drooling the whole time
11-26-2013 04:48 AM
EGLESCT
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Originally Posted by DeGusipe
The magnum motors may be a good motor to you but with older dodge engines I have had a lot of bad experiences. If you could get all the items listed in the previous post for $700 wouldn't you snag that deal up? Of course the 5.9 magnum will crush the specs of a 305 and the 4.0L but I'm not looking to make a powerhouse out of this jeep. Just a fun little cruiser and some off-roading.
Just out of curiosity, how old were the older dodge Motors you were having troubles with?

Are you planning on rebuilding the 305/4.0 before you install it?
11-25-2013 10:34 PM
DeGusipe
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Originally Posted by RICEKILA View Post
Some one I know --



Very nice.
11-25-2013 10:32 PM
DeGusipe
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Originally Posted by sduncan View Post
Ok...I'm bored and had to look it up....

As taken from Wikipedia..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chevrol...ird_generation)

"the 305 TPI manual transmission models were rated at 220 HP @ 4400 and 290 @ 3200, Automatic at 195 HP @ 4000 and 295 @ 2800 and the 350 TPI got a small boost to 230 HP @ 4400 and 330 @ 3200. G92 (performance axle ratio) available only on IROC-Z with 5.0 TPI (LB9)."


For the Magnum motors...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chrysler_LA_engine


The Magnum 5.2, released in 1992, was an evolutionary development of the 318ci 'LA' engine with the same displacement. The 5.2 was the first of the Magnum upgraded engines, followed in 1993 by the 5.9 V8 and the 3.9 V6.

At the time of its introduction, the 5.2L Magnum created 230 hp (170 kW) @ 4,400rpm and 300 lb-ft of torque (410 N-M) @ 3,200rpm.[4] Production of this engine lasted until 2003

In 1993, Chrysler Corporation released the next member of the Magnum family: the 5.9L V8. This was based on the LA-series 360ci engine, and included the same upgrades and design features as the 5.2L. The standard 5.9L created 230 hp (170 kW) @ 4,000 rpm and 330 lbft (449 Nm) @ 3,250 rpm. It was upgraded in 1998 to 245 hp (183 kW) @ 4,000 rpm and 335 ftlbs (454 Nm) @ 3,250 rpm. However, Chrysler came out with the performance-oriented R/T version in 1998. This engine was provided with a more aggressive camshaft profile, and it was rated for 250 hp (190 kW) and 345 lbft (469 Nm). The 5.9L R/T came factory-installed in 1998-2001 Dodge Dakota R/T pickups and Dodge Durango R/T SUVs. It was also installed in the Jeep Grand Cherokee Limited 5.9, only available in 1998. The 5.9L Magnum was available until the 2003 model year, when it was replaced with the 5.7L Hemi V8 engine.[12]
The magnum motors may be a good motor to you but with older dodge engines I have had a lot of bad experiences. If you could get all the items listed in the previous post for $700 wouldn't you snag that deal up? Of course the 5.9 magnum will crush the specs of a 305 and the 4.0L but I'm not looking to make a powerhouse out of this jeep. Just a fun little cruiser and some off-roading.
11-25-2013 10:03 PM
sduncan Ok...I'm bored and had to look it up....

As taken from Wikipedia..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chevrol...ird_generation)

"the 305 TPI manual transmission models were rated at 220 HP @ 4400 and 290 @ 3200, Automatic at 195 HP @ 4000 and 295 @ 2800 and the 350 TPI got a small boost to 230 HP @ 4400 and 330 @ 3200. G92 (performance axle ratio) available only on IROC-Z with 5.0 TPI (LB9)."


For the Magnum motors...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chrysler_LA_engine


The Magnum 5.2, released in 1992, was an evolutionary development of the 318ci 'LA' engine with the same displacement. The 5.2 was the first of the Magnum upgraded engines, followed in 1993 by the 5.9 V8 and the 3.9 V6.

At the time of its introduction, the 5.2L Magnum created 230 hp (170 kW) @ 4,400rpm and 300 lb-ft of torque (410 N-M) @ 3,200rpm.[4] Production of this engine lasted until 2003

In 1993, Chrysler Corporation released the next member of the Magnum family: the 5.9L V8. This was based on the LA-series 360ci engine, and included the same upgrades and design features as the 5.2L. The standard 5.9L created 230 hp (170 kW) @ 4,000 rpm and 330 lbft (449 Nm) @ 3,250 rpm. It was upgraded in 1998 to 245 hp (183 kW) @ 4,000 rpm and 335 ftlbs (454 Nm) @ 3,250 rpm. However, Chrysler came out with the performance-oriented R/T version in 1998. This engine was provided with a more aggressive camshaft profile, and it was rated for 250 hp (190 kW) and 345 lbft (469 Nm). The 5.9L R/T came factory-installed in 1998-2001 Dodge Dakota R/T pickups and Dodge Durango R/T SUVs. It was also installed in the Jeep Grand Cherokee Limited 5.9, only available in 1998. The 5.9L Magnum was available until the 2003 model year, when it was replaced with the 5.7L Hemi V8 engine.[12]
11-25-2013 09:42 PM
RICEKILA Some one I know --



11-25-2013 09:38 PM
AntiPrius
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Originally Posted by DeGusipe View Post
Those dodge magnum engines are junk and that is the reason I am not going with the magnum engine, sorry.
I have to say, those Mopar motors are pretty good. Much better than a 305, among many other motors.
11-25-2013 09:28 PM
sduncan
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Originally Posted by DeGusipe View Post
Those dodge magnum engines are junk and that is the reason I am not going with the magnum engine, sorry.
No apology needed...

I gather that you got that information from your highly trained and experienced "mechanic" friends right?


Just so it can be said here...the older small block Chrysler motors were some of the most reliable engines produced. With the Magnum
re-design, more HP and torque were available, and improvements were made to even further the reliability of these motors. They were not known as all out powermakers by any means, but they worked and worked well and continue to do so.

In going back to your original plan of a carbed 305, what would indicate that that particuliar setup would be a better and more reliable package than a late model 5.9 Magnum RT engine? Please be specific with your reply as I'm sure that the forum members here who have already done the Magnum conversion would like to be assured that they didn't make a bad decision.

And $700 is a steal for the 4.0 if its a running engine and the trans and t-case are in good condition.
11-25-2013 09:11 PM
DeGusipe
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Originally Posted by sduncan View Post
You do actually realize that it is no easier to bolt in the 4.0 that it is to do a 5.2 or 5.9 Magnum motor right? Its the same amount of work...All of the items that need to be changed for the Magnum motors also need to be changed to accomodate the 4.0.

I wish I could understand your thought process on all this but its completely apparent that you haven't thought this through at all.

Good luck...I'm thinking you're gonna need all you can get....
Also I am able to get the 4.0 motor, tranny & tcase all in one swing along with the computer, wiring harness and drive shafts for $700
11-25-2013 09:08 PM
DeGusipe
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Originally Posted by JFM626 View Post
Trans and t- case too?
Yes, anything I need is available off of the 4.0 jeep.
11-25-2013 09:08 PM
DeGusipe
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Originally Posted by sduncan View Post
You do actually realize that it is no easier to bolt in the 4.0 that it is to do a 5.2 or 5.9 Magnum motor right? Its the same amount of work...All of the items that need to be changed for the Magnum motors also need to be changed to accomodate the 4.0.

I wish I could understand your thought process on all this but its completely apparent that you haven't thought this through at all.

Good luck...I'm thinking you're gonna need all you can get....
Those dodge magnum engines are junk and that is the reason I am not going with the magnum engine, sorry.
11-25-2013 08:40 PM
sduncan You do actually realize that it is no easier to bolt in the 4.0 that it is to do a 5.2 or 5.9 Magnum motor right? Its the same amount of work...All of the items that need to be changed for the Magnum motors also need to be changed to accomodate the 4.0.

I wish I could understand your thought process on all this but its completely apparent that you haven't thought this through at all.

Good luck...I'm thinking you're gonna need all you can get....
11-25-2013 08:40 PM
JFM626 Trans and t- case too?
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