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post #1 of 16 Old 06-28-2010, 03:32 PM Thread Starter
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Upgrade alignment parts?

I have a 2007 Rubicon 2 door.

No lift, stock wheels and tires, hey I live in the midwest LOL I should have never bought the Rubicon, but I did.

Anyhow, I bought a new set of Mud Terrains in July of 2009 and the fronts tires are trashed. Sears had a problem aligning it, something about the cam nut was bad?

The tires are all choppy, so before I buy another set I need to replace the steering compnents with some decent ones that will last.

I looked at the poly performance but I need a spacer just to use the stock wheel

I like the stock look.

What parts should I replace and what brand ?


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If your stock why is there a cam nut? This is usually something added when lifted to account for the lack of adjustable control arms. You sure you don't have a BB or something?

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There isn't much to doing an alignment especially on a stock vehicle. Honestly I think the fault lies with Sears. There is a good write up floating around on how to do a basic alignment (It is really simple), you might try doing it yourself after getting new tires (or take it somewhere besides that Sears). I can't imagine anything being jacked up enough on a stock vehicle that would cause excessive tire wear unless a mistake was made somewhere. What specific components are you thinking of replacing?
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Maybe that is what he suggested was the cam bolt.

I want to replace what parts are weak.

The tires were chopped up before I bought the new set and took them to sears, then sears installed the new set of tires and aligned it. I was hoping that would fix them, then 9 months later, they are getting chopped up again

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If your stock why is there a cam nut? This is usually something added when lifted to account for the lack of adjustable control arms. You sure you don't have a BB or something?
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There isn't much to doing an alignment especially on a stock vehicle. Honestly I think the fault lies with Sears. There is a good write up floating around on how to do a basic alignment (It is really simple), you might try doing it yourself after getting new tires (or take it somewhere besides that Sears). I can't imagine anything being jacked up enough on a stock vehicle that would cause excessive tire wear unless a mistake was made somewhere. What specific components are you thinking of replacing?

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Then it sounds like the alignment was never done correctly. At stock height you should not need cam bolts unless something is messed up. Control arms would be the real fix if you actually do need cam bolts.

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from what I can find on the internet, they are "feathered" for the wear

When the wife gets home from work I will take pictures of the tires so we can see the wear

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On a stock height jeep, just make sure the toe is set correctly and you rotate the tires every 3k miles. If one or both hasn't been done, that's the problem. Camber and caster won't cause your problem.

And what does living in the midwest have to do with owning a rubi?

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On a stock height jeep, just make sure the toe is set correctly and you rotate the tires every 3k miles. If one or both hasn't been done, that's the problem. Camber and caster won't cause your problem.

And what does living in the midwest have to do with owning a rubi?
Wouldn't lack of tire rotation show wear on front and rear?

I will admit, I have not rotated the tires, only because the first set I put on the Jeep I did rotate then it ruined the set from the back.

At this point the only tires messed up are the fronts, that is why I do not want to rotate

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[QUOTE=And what does living in the midwest have to do with owning a rubi?[/QUOTE]

YEAH! I don't have a RUBI but I wheel every chance I get and I bend and break stuff too!! We have it all mud, rocks, trails, malls............

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YEAH! I don't have a RUBI but I wheel every chance I get and I bend and break stuff too!! We have it all mud, rocks, trails, malls............
I know, but when I lived in SoCal, the lift was more applicable than here, at least for me

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I know, but when I lived in SoCal, the lift was more applicable than here, at least for me
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If your tires are "messed up" then rotate them to the other end! Rotating every 3k won't give the tire enough time to wear oddly and if you do a proper rotation, your tires should last for a very long time.....longer than if you don't rotate. Obviously something is wrong. Worn ball joints or a bent housing are causes of crappy camber, which could be your problem. Go to a good alignment shop to give you a readout on the front toe, caster, and camber and the rear toe and camber. If something is wrong on a stock height verhicle, then something is bent and/or the ball joints are badly worn.

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If your tires are "messed up" then rotate them to the other end! Rotating every 3k won't give the tire enough time to wear oddly and if you do a proper rotation, your tires should last for a very long time.....longer than if you don't rotate. Obviously something is wrong. Worn ball joints or a bent housing are causes of crappy camber, which could be your problem. Go to a good alignment shop to give you a readout on the front toe, caster, and camber and the rear toe and camber. If something is wrong on a stock height verhicle, then something is bent and/or the ball joints are badly worn.
Unfortunately, both are issues that crop on on JKs more often than I like reading...

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well I will get a better place align, maybe even the dealer?

I'll get the new tires and follow the tire rotation and see what happens

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I would get an alignment at an actual 4x4 shop. Also like everyone is saying ROTATE. I do almost every oil change or 5k miles and havent needed an alignment sense I got the lift installed...can also check your brake pads and rotors while your at it!

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