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post #1 of 15 Old 11-02-2019, 11:00 AM Thread Starter
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removing my 3 piece top issues

I put my hardtop back on a few weeks ago and after a short time got tired of the look.
I like my trektop nx.
So I went to remove the front panels and I must have over tightened the 2 center bolts ( ones with the plastic caps that go through the roll bar), because the caps were no longer firmly attached to the bolts.
The caps would turn, but not the bolts.
I know you aren't supposed to over tighten them, but I've had a major issue with the 3 piece top leaking in the 5 years I've had my 14JK.

Is this a common thing?
I see there are several places to buy replacements.

I know what I did to remove them, was wondering what anyone else did. If anyone?

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post #2 of 15 Old 11-02-2019, 07:21 PM
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Common?

I dunno. Not an issue here.

If I were having problems I might push downward on the panels to try and unload the screws before attempting to unthread them.

I love my TrexTop NX Glide, but I took it off today and installed the hardtop for winter.

My panels normally seal very well. But I pay close attention to seat both, without disturbing any seals, then tighten everything evenly.

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post #3 of 15 Old 11-02-2019, 08:02 PM Thread Starter
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I know I screwed up tightening them way too tight, but after the way they leak, I figured I can't be the only one to have this issue.
In my attempts to get the bolts out, I used leverage from below and on top.
I figured it was the nuts that were located in the top sections that had spun.
But it wasn't.
The bolt heads are embedded in the plastic caps and they are the part that spun.
I literally had to destroy the plastic caps.
Fortunately the bolt heads were smaller than the holes in the roll bar and I was able to lift the 2 sections straight up.
The replacement bolt assembly was fairly easy to find in several locations.

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post #4 of 15 Old 11-02-2019, 08:13 PM
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My top has only ever dripped once or twice... Right at the front seam, and one of those times was when parked overnight in a tropical storm.

I don't go crazy trying to tighten them, finger-tight plus maybe a half a grunt. Less than a spin on oil filter for sure.

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My top has only ever dripped once or twice... Right at the front seam, and one of those times was when parked overnight in a tropical storm.

I don't go crazy trying to tighten them, finger-tight plus maybe a half a grunt. Less than a spin on oil filter for sure.

I didn't think I really put that much effort into it.
But it was seized up pretty good.
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post #6 of 15 Old 11-03-2019, 07:19 AM
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Ine thng when reinstalling the front panels: make sure they are evenly spaced to each other.
Once I re-installed mine, walked by the front a week later or so and looked at the top panels. Noticed that the gap between the two was not even. Before tightening them down, just wiggle them a bit and check the spacing. Not saying that would cause the leak, depending upon where yours is.
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FYI - I only use those center bolts when I am running the front freedom panels without the rear part of the top. In my opinion they aren't really needed if the entire hardtop is on. Yes my top leaks... it leaks all over. But it leaks with the center bolts in or out. So take my opinion with a grain of salt... but they aren't needed!

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FYI - I only use those center bolts when I am running the front freedom panels without the rear part of the top. In my opinion they aren't really needed if the entire hardtop is on. Yes my top leaks... it leaks all over. But it leaks with the center bolts in or out. So take my opinion with a grain of salt... but they aren't needed!


Hmmm, interesting.


Yeah, I don't know what happened.
I've taken this hard top off and on 10 times in the 5+ years I've owned it.
IMO it's more of a pain in the *** than it's worth.

I only put it back on because I carry all my work tools with me on various jobs and had one coming up that my Jeep was going to be parked in a area that had no security and I figured the hard top would stop the lazy crooks vs. the soft top.
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You must have cranked them pretty good. I just tighten them enough to make the freedom top panel trailing edge flush with the leading edge of the main top.
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I'm a little puzzled by all this.

I've always found the panels and top are simple to remove or install. With my Racor crank up lift I can have it hanging from the ceiling in under an hour by myself. And it only takes that long because I hang it above the garage door and it has to be adjusted perfectly to clear when the door is open.

And I can install it by myself in about 20 minutes without breaking a sweat.

The panels come on or off in minutes.

Use the pins to position, align the windshield clamp, thread the bolt finger tight, secure with the clamp and lever(s).

Other than making sure no seal is folded over or out of place when the panel is lowered into position that's it.
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I'm a little puzzled by all this.

I've always found the panels and top are simple to remove or install. With my Racor crank up lift I can have it hanging from the ceiling in under an hour by myself. And it only takes that long because I hang it above the garage door and it has to be adjusted perfectly to clear when the door is open.

And I can install it by myself in about 20 minutes without breaking a sweat.

The panels come on or off in minutes.

Use the pins to position, align the windshield clamp, thread the bolt finger tight, secure with the clamp and lever(s).

Other than making sure no seal is folded over or out of place when the panel is lowered into position that's it.

Why would you be puzzled?
I just tightened them too tight. I said that in my 3rd sentence.
I was just curious if this happens much and if it did what did other have to do to remove the bolts.
This wasn't about the ability to remove or replace my hard top.

I take my top off and on usually in less than a half hour, by myself.
I do it at least twice a year.
It is simple.
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Why would you be puzzled?

I just tightened them too tight. I said that in my 3rd sentence.

I was just curious if this happens much and if it did what did other have to do to remove the bolts.

This wasn't about the ability to remove or replace my hard top.



I take my top off and on usually in less than a half hour, by myself.

I do it at least twice a year.

It is simple.

I was commenting on the more recent posts which talk enjoy l about it being difficult and leaks etc.

You just finished saying it was a pia? So which is it a pia or simple?!?

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I'm a little puzzled by all this.

I've always found the panels and top are simple to remove or install. With my Racor crank up lift I can have it hanging from the ceiling in under an hour by myself. And it only takes that long because I hang it above the garage door and it has to be adjusted perfectly to clear when the door is open.

And I can install it by myself in about 20 minutes without breaking a sweat.

The panels come on or off in minutes.

Use the pins to position, align the windshield clamp, thread the bolt finger tight, secure with the clamp and lever(s).

Other than making sure no seal is folded over or out of place when the panel is lowered into position that's it.


I was just wondering if I was the only dummy that did this.
You know, they say misery loves company.


With my hard top from the first time it rained more than a couple hours it leaked when I bought it new in 2014.
I took it it back 5-6 times over the first year or so.
It leaked from everywhere.

They had all new seals installed in the doors and top.
They finally told me not to come back with that issue.
I told them if I did come back it would be for a new top under the lemon law.
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I was just wondering if I was the only dummy that did this.

You know, they say misery loves company.





With my hard top from the first time it rained more than a couple hours it leaked when I bought it new in 2014.

I took it it back 5-6 times over the first year or so.

It leaked from everywhere.



They had all new seals installed in the doors and top.

They finally told me not to come back with that issue.

I told them if I did come back it would be for a new top under the lemon law.
That blows, that would infuriate me...

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I was commenting on the more recent posts which talk enjoy l about it being difficult and leaks etc.

You just finished saying it was a pia? So which is it a pia or simple?!?
Just simple easy task.
I've used a Laing Hoist on on my last 2 Jeeps.
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