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tallica8402 01-29-2016 02:18 PM

New to the Jeep world
 
Hello,

I'm currently looking to purchase a Jeep Wrangler. I just have one question really. I don't plan on doing any rock crawling or climbing; or nothing too crazy. I only plan to go off road a little bit and maybe sling some mud around. Is a Wrangler sport, I guess, good enough for that or should I look at a Rubicon? Any advice you guys could input would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!

Neo1130 01-29-2016 02:36 PM

Sport would be perfect for it... You can always modify to your situation and style later on...

pdxkale 01-29-2016 02:42 PM

I had the same quandary a few months ago. I think it really depends on your budget and wants. I liked some features on the Rubi, like the larger tires, rock rails, and D44 rear, but didn't want to swallow the price increase for features I didn't really need, like the lockers and sway bar disconnect. I ended up going with the Willy's Wheeler edition since it gave me a good compromise of the Rubi tires, suspension, rock rails, limited slip rear, at about $5-7K less than a similarly equipped Rubi. I plan on just taking logging trails, trips out on the sand at the coast, and just bombing around the back roads of the PNW with the wife and dogs. If you cannot decide between the Sport and the Rubi, it might be the mid-point you are looking for.

tallica8402 01-29-2016 11:14 PM

Yea, I was looking at some Sahara's too. Thanks for the input guys. Once I actually get a jeep i'll be active on the forums.

Prot 01-30-2016 12:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pdxkale
I had the same quandary a few months ago. I think it really depends on your budget and wants. I liked some features on the Rubi, like the larger tires, rock rails, and D44 rear, but didn't want to swallow the price increase for features I didn't really need, like the lockers and sway bar disconnect. I ended up going with the Willy's Wheeler edition since it gave me a good compromise of the Rubi tires, suspension, rock rails, limited slip rear, at about $5-7K less than a similarly equipped Rubi. I plan on just taking logging trails, trips out on the sand at the coast, and just bombing around the back roads of the PNW with the wife and dogs. If you cannot decide between the Sport and the Rubi, it might be the mid-point you are looking for.

All JK's except some early production 2007 2 door models have a D44 in the rear. Rubicon also features D44 in the front whereas other models have D30 in the front. Also worth noting is the spline count of rear D44 in a rubicon is higher than other models.

Rubicon also have lockers in both axles, electronic sway bar disconnect, and a lower gear ratio in the transfer case among other things.

18Fox20 01-30-2016 09:00 AM

Sport or Sahara would be more than ample for your described needs. To my knowledge all JK models are equipped with a two speed transfer case and BLD. Even the Willy's model would likely be overkill for your needs. Might be better off spending the difference on add-ons and mods that you'll actually use. My 2.

jwmbishop 01-30-2016 01:51 PM

Just keep in mind if you ever DO want to have higher capability later... only the Rubi brings an OEM 4:1 transfer.

JIMBOX 01-30-2016 02:38 PM

:cool: Just as Mr. Bishop says, and--

Most of the "THINGS" you may wanna add to your jeep--later ---

Are already there if you buy the Rubi, plus your resale value will stay high with the Rubi and on an ordinary model--you'll loose over 50% of any price you may spend onit--

Whatever-

:rofl::rofl: JIMBO

tallica8402 01-30-2016 07:11 PM

I like the Rubicon but I don't think I'll be able to find one within my budget.

79cj7amc304auto 01-30-2016 08:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jwmbishop
Just keep in mind if you ever DO want to have higher capability later... only the Rubi brings an OEM 4:1 transfer.

Shortly after I bought my Rubi I was kicking myself bcs I thought I made a mistake by buying vs upgrading. But after almost three years I am SO glad I went Rubi. I can't lie... I wouldn't have as capable a jeep as I do right now. I'm lazy like that. My interests changed quickly and it's nice to upgrade the Rubi as a starting platform. Just the gears, lockers, transfer case and d44 front would eat up a big chunk of your savings. If ur not planning to go full out ridiculous like d60s, 37"+ tires, new drivetrain and such... Then a rubicon is nicely built and probably a good decision worth considering. Resale value alone will save ur *** big time if you decide jeeping is just not for you later on down the road. You can sell in a few years for 7-9k more than a standard sport. Spend now and save later is my recommendation.

18Fox20 01-31-2016 06:20 PM

It is undeniable that a Rubicon is the better choice if you are going to do hardcore off-roading, but the OP made it clear that he was not. I've come to realize that for snowy roads, trails, and pastures that I did not need to spend $ on tempting upgrades to my former CJ, TJ, or LJ. What I did find most useful was a quality safari top, bedliner, and tires. Got my $ worth out of those items regularly. If I was rich I'd get a Rubicon AND all the aforementioned items, but I had to choose. Again, just my take. Spend your $ how you want.

JIMBOX 01-31-2016 07:28 PM

:cool: Nope the Rubi is the better choice if you wanna start with the best/warranty'd/outfitted jeep/w NO DOWN TIME, or additional CASH, You can start with that as your base and go from there-the only thing I've discarded from my Rubi--in 7-1/2 tears, is the 4.10 gears and they aren't even Rubi !

It's still the best financial jeep purchase, whether you use the attributes or not--when you sellit--you won't lose much money, compared to one you "MODIFY" !

Wharever

:rofl::rofl: JIMBO

79cj7amc304auto 02-01-2016 07:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 18Fox20
It is undeniable that a Rubicon is the better choice if you are going to do hardcore off-roading, but the OP made it clear that he was not. I've come to realize that for snowy roads, trails, and pastures that I did not need to spend $ on tempting upgrades to my former CJ, TJ, or LJ. What I did find most useful was a quality safari top, bedliner, and tires. Got my $ worth out of those items regularly. If I was rich I'd get a Rubicon AND all the aforementioned items, but I had to choose. Again, just my take. Spend your $ how you want.

The OP made it clear that he's new to the jeep world so his intended uses can change very quickly. I just wouldn't wanna be stuck with a 34k jeep that can't do what I want it to do without major mods (or do it as easy) when I could have bought a jk for a few bucks more. Seriously if a few thousand bucks is a major concern, then maybe someone should consider a used jeep or something different altogether.

18Fox20 02-01-2016 07:47 PM

Fair enough. BLD and LSD have been sufficient over the last 8 years for my purposes. I get that aftermarket mods don't yield much return on resale, but that assumes that you even need them. I'm not going to tell the OP what his needs are or if they will change. Mine did not.

Rubicon is an incredible machine, and I would have never even had an opportunity to exploit it. That $5k extra would have just sat unused in lockers, suspension components, and a front D44. More than 30k is my personal breakpoint, and buying used Wranglers just scares me unless I know the previous owner. Both arguments make sense, but I'd rather have cash in hand/invested. Rubicon is not for everyone.

jwmbishop 02-02-2016 04:28 PM

I'm with you on the cash in hand thing - I just pointed out the Rubi transfer cuz that's where I hear a lot of guys bemoan their decision later (they had no intention of climbing the mountain until the mountain appeared in front of them) - but also the guy who wants to go Atlas 5:1 later (after struggling at 2:1 watching the 4:1 do so well) is happy he didn't buy a Rubi!


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