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post #1 of 16 Old 10-06-2013, 01:24 AM Thread Starter
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looking for mod ideas to make me more capable

Im looking for mod ideas to make my rig more capable. I have a 2007 4dr Sahara. currently I have

front bumper and winch
flat fenders
rock sliders
rear bumper
ome 2.5" lift with front discos
35" bfg mt
arb compressor on the way
rigid 20"sr on the way

any ideas for capability?


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post #2 of 16 Old 10-06-2013, 01:28 AM
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lockers, anything drivetrain related, upgraded driveshafts, skids.. how big of a list do you want

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Would you suggest locking the front or the rear first? I ask that b.c. the front is a d30 and rear is d44.

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Rear first.

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Saharas technically have a (anti-spin) diff, so Ive read that it acts like a LSD. I notice it offroad, so maybe if you do alot of snow driving in the winter time, a LSD front might benefit you most

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is it a daily driver? if not spool the rear...
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It doesnt snow a lot here.

yes its a dd

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It doesnt snow a lot here.

yes its a dd
While you are locking the rear, you might as well re-gear... Since you have to re-gear the front too, might as well lock it as well!

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Whats a good gear for dd use

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I have a feeling reading around on the FAQ will answer all your questions

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Okay thanks!

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Whats a good gear for dd use
Depends on tire size u plan on running and if u are auto or manual trans. If u plan on running really large tires (37+) the type of axles u are running will come into play as well. All I can do is give u an example of my plans based on my research thus far. I have an auto with D44s and I will probably stick with 33s, maybe creep up to 35s later on down the road. I plan on regearing to 4.88s when I get my bonus next February.

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Would you suggest locking the front or the rear first? I ask that b.c. the front is a d30 and rear is d44.


You'll get more benefits and be more capable off road with a front locker.

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You'll get more benefits and be more capable off road with a front locker.
I disagree completely.
After locking several vehicles (front and rear), I rarely needed the front locked. In one I case I locked the rear first and really didn't even feel much need for a front locker, but I got a deal on a complete geared/locked front diff.
You'll normally need more traction when climbing, and the majority of the weight (available traction) is on the rear tires. Not to mention the fact that locking the front makes steering very difficult, the axle shafts are weaker, the u joints are inherently weak with the wheels turned, the ring/pinion is weaker, the driveshaft is weaker etc.
The one advantage to a front locker is that, with it locked, there is less chance of spinning up one tire that is in the air, and snapping an axle shaft or u joint when it makes contact with traction again.
That's just my experience anyway. I would always lock the rear before the front, personally. The only exception to this might be if I already had a rear limited slip.
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I disagree completely.
After locking several vehicles (front and rear), I rarely needed the front locked. In one I case I locked the rear first and really didn't even feel much need for a front locker, but I got a deal on a complete geared/locked front diff.
Ive run many set ups also, Rear only, fronts only, front and rear in a variety of vehicles.

A locker front OR rear is night and day when compared to open rears.


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You'll normally need more traction when climbing, and the majority of the weight (available traction) is on the rear tires.
You present a very good argument in favor of a FRONT locker.

If you need more traction when climbing, why would you want to lock the end that already has the most traction and is least likely to slip?

Wouldn't it make more sense to lock the end with the least amount of traction?

The rear tires only PUSH the front tires into and does nothing to help the front tires climb up and over. It's also easier to PULL the rear up and over than it is to push the front. Locking the front adds traction to the end that is most likely to slip and to the end that will stop forward movement the easiest. The front also has the benefit of being able to look for traction, the rear is stuck following the front and is stuck dealing with what ever is straight in front of it.

Which does better in the snow? A front wheel drive car or a rear wheel drive car?

Is it easier to push a dolly up a step or to pull it up the step?

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