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post #1 of 14 Old 07-02-2020, 09:49 AM Thread Starter
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Wipers not working

Can the board here give me some suggestions on troubleshooting my wipers all of a sudden not working?
I am 99% sure the switch / lever is good- it was replaced last year & the washer still squirts.
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post #2 of 14 Old 07-02-2020, 09:52 AM
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Can the board here give me some suggestions on troubleshooting my wipers all of a sudden not working?

I am 99% the switch / lever is good- it was replace last year & the washer still squirts.

Thanks fellas
Did you check the fuse behind the glove box and the relay under the hood?

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Did you check the fuse behind the glove box and the relay under the hood?

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Not yet
I will check the fuse first
Unsure how to check the relay though- I do have V.O.M. though

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I will check the fuse first

Unsure how to check the relay though- I do have V.O.M. though
I think it is 13 (accessories) in the power distribution box under the hood.

When mine went out, I lost sprayer too, it was the connector came undone.

Another cause could be a bad wiper motor, you have to remove the cowl to test that.

If you google a bit, there are a few write ups on what to check

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I think it is 13 (accessories) in the power distribution box under the hood.

When mine went out, I lost sprayer too, it was the connector came undone.

Another cause could be a bad wiper motor, you have to remove the cowl to test that.

If you google a bit, there are a few write ups on what to check

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When I see the price of OEM I think aftermarket.
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Thanks for posting that jtec
I just have no clue how to use it
Is that from the FSM?

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It is not the fuse if the washer pump works.

There is no relay under the hood.

If you want to check the switch & have an ohm meter it is not too hard & if good itís likely the motor is bad. Iíve seen a few that are completely rusted out from exposure to weather.

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DIAGNOSIS AND TESTING - RIGHT MULTIFUNCTION
SWITCH
Be certain to perform the diagnosis for the front
wiper system and/or front washer system before testing
the right multi-function switch. (Refer to 8 -
ELECTRICAL/FRONT WIPERS/WASHERS - DIAGNOSIS
AND TESTING). Refer to the appropriate
wiring information. The wiring information includes
wiring diagrams, proper wire and connector repair
procedures, details of wire harness routing and
retention, connector pin-out information and location
views for the various wire harness connectors, splices
and grounds.
WARNING: ON VEHICLES EQUIPPED WITH AIRBAGS,
DISABLE THE AIRBAG SYSTEM BEFORE
ATTEMPTING ANY STEERING WHEEL, STEERING
COLUMN, OR INSTRUMENT PANEL COMPONENT
DIAGNOSIS OR SERVICE. DISCONNECT AND ISOLATE
THE BATTERY NEGATIVE (GROUND) CABLE,
THEN WAIT TWO MINUTES FOR THE AIRBAG SYSTEM
CAPACITOR TO DISCHARGE BEFORE PERFORMING
FURTHER DIAGNOSIS OR SERVICE. THIS
IS THE ONLY SURE WAY TO DISABLE THE AIRBAG
SYSTEM. FAILURE TO TAKE THE PROPER PRECAUTIONS
COULD RESULT IN ACCIDENTAL AIRBAG
DEPLOYMENT AND POSSIBLE PERSONAL
INJURY.
(1) Disconnect and isolate the battery negative
cable.
(2) Remove the right multi-function switch from
the steering column and disconnect the cross body
wire harness connector for the switch from the
switch connector receptacle.
(3) Using an ohmmeter, check the right multi-function
switch continuity at the switch terminals (Fig.
17).
(4) If the switch fails any of the continuity checks,
replace the faulty right multi-function switch. If the
switch is OK, repair the open or shorted front wiper
and washer system circuits between the right multifunction
switch and the front wiper motor or the
front washer pump/motor as required.
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Thanks for all the help fellas- though most of it was WAY past my pay-grade- I am no electrician.
So I went back to a thread I found the other day using the search function and saw where a fella completely dissembled the entire motor drive unit. His was basically froze up from corrosion, he took it all apart cleaned and lubed everything and that was the fyx. So I attempted the same thing- mine has water intrusion and was rusting inside- but when it came time for re-assembly I lost 2 of the TINY springs that keep the carbon "bushings" on the armature ( unsure of all the technical nomenclature ) and also one of those carbon bushings crumbled apart. So I am just getting a replacement motor drive unit from my local NAPA dealer

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let us know after R&R wiper motor.

good luck - think positive
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let us know after R&R wiper motor.

good luck - think positive
For sure!!!!!

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but when it came time for re-assembly I lost 2 of the TINY springs that keep the carbon "bushings" on the armature ( unsure of all the technical nomenclature ) and also one of those carbon bushings crumbled apart
Those carbon bits are called carbon brushes. They're the electrical contact between the commutator and the motor circuit wiring. If you find yourself bored or adventurous, replacements can be purchased to replace the bad ones (McMaster-Carr is one such source).
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Here is the final update

So last Thursday I went to NAPA to get a replacement motor / drive assy. Of course they didnt have one in stock, so they ordered one that came in the next morning. Went to get it and it was a totally different assy. Come to find out my jeep is a '02 but apparently came with a '03 assy. so it would not fit / work. So they had to order another one that had to come from TEXAS--and it took exactly 7 days so I got it this morning-- installed it and all works well

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I think it is 13 (accessories) in the power distribution box under the hood.

When mine went out, I lost sprayer too, it was the connector came undone.

Another cause could be a bad wiper motor, you have to remove the cowl to test that.

If you google a bit, there are a few write ups on what to check

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Reminds me to work on aunt's TJ as the wiper has been acting up recently. Will just finish installing the brake kit, tire and wheel packages on the current Ram project. The sprayer was replaced before by the previous owner. Guess the wiper motor needs a replacement.
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