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post #1 of 21 Old 05-21-2015, 10:20 AM Thread Starter
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whos got the best advice for me on control arms?

So after a few years of just messing around in mud and small trails getting to the river and etc, I'd like to actually start building for wheeling. My Sig and build show it all but I'm working with my 97 tj 2.5 on 5.25" lift and 35s. June comes my ford 8.8 swap and 4.88 gears. I'd then like to look into a tummy tuck(mostly why I added the BL). So I have two questions..deal with new driveshafts after the new axle is in? And then, I was thinking of replacing my skyjacker control arms..I've ripped the mounts off the front axle so they now have stronger mounts, but I've heard a lot about bad rubber bushings so I was thinking if swapping them out. Don't want a battle of which brand is better, but more of what do I need that will suit my needs? I want to join a group and do trails with them. I don't want to say its nothing crazy, but it sure is more than what I do now. Would I just do lowers? Adjustable? Or, do all 8. Advantage of doing uppers as well as bottoms or would just bottoms be good enough? Uppers are still stock.

Thanks guys..just kind of want a plan before I dig into the axle swap and I don't want to go into things twice if I don't have to


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post #2 of 21 Old 05-21-2015, 10:28 AM Thread Starter
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Also, feel free to chime in on any other upgrades I should be looking at besides these

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i recommend using a higher end joint instead of a bushing. Curries Johnny Joint and Metal Cloaks DuroFlex joint are the best options available

with that much lift and planning a TT, you're gonna need uppers and lowers. you can adjust for pinion angle with just one, but that will sacrifice wheel base, so you'll need the other set to properly position your axle allowing your springs and bump stops to stay in line
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with that much lift and planning a TT, you're gonna need uppers and lowers. you can adjust for pinion angle with just one, but that will sacrifice wheel base, so you'll need the other set to properly position your axle allowing your springs and bump stops to stay in line
Setting pinion with only one set of arms with 5.25" plus a TT going to be difficult to impossible.
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I try not to recommend something I haven't done but I believe Revolution has just brought out 5.13 gears for Dana 30, you may want to steer that way.

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I try not to recommend something I haven't done but I believe Revolution has just brought out 5.13 gears for Dana 30, you may want to steer that way.
Oh really? I sure would mind having 5.13s...I'll have to do some research. I'm pulling the trigger on the axle in two weeks so I need to make a decision on all this soon

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Setting pinion with only one set of arms with 5.25" plus a TT going to be difficult to impossible.
OK so are you saying I have the option of new lower arms and no TT or if i go with TT do all 8 arms?

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I replaced my cheapo aftermarket control arms with Savvy Currie double adjustable arms.
The cheapo flex joints fell apart and I rebuilt them, then the rubber end bushings disintegrated after only a few years. Mostly trail rig and garage/trailer queen.

The double adjustable arms are so nice for easy pinion adjustments, especially if you are going to tuck your skid later.
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I replaced my cheapo aftermarket control arms with Savvy Currie double adjustable arms.
The cheapo flex joints fell apart and I rebuilt them, then the rubber end bushings disintegrated after only a few years. Mostly trail rig and garage/trailer queen.

The double adjustable arms are so nice for easy pinion adjustments, especially if you are going to tuck your skid later.
I agree, I am going be installing the double adjustable MC arms when they arrive at my doorstep to go with the other MC parts sitting in the garage.

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OK so are you saying I have the option of new lower arms and no TT or if i go with TT do all 8 arms?
Even at 5.25" with no TT setting pinion with only lowers is very much the wrong way to do it.
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Even at 5.25" with no TT setting pinion with only lowers is very much the wrong way to do it.
agreed, if you can even get lowers short enough. the bump stops will be way off.

when you do get this all set up, make sure to check shock clearance to the coil perch. i had to notch mine and i only have 2" springs in the back and an EHC skid from UCF
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Even at 5.25" with no TT setting pinion with only lowers is very much the wrong way to do it.
OK so uppers and lowers it is

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Ruffstuff has a set of TJ arms now too using their Heims.
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Ruffstuff has a set of TJ arms now too using their Heims.
While Ruff Stuff makes good heims and there are uses for them I would never use them in TJ control arms given the other available options.
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Heims are strong, but make tons of noise.
Their arms are not that much cheaper either.
If they were real cheap, I could see them as a price point option.
They are not an option for a street jeep at their price.

for arms: currie, savvy, rokmen, clayton, and metal cloak, are the best options.
do all eight arms, and the currie johnny joint housing kit. In 5 or 10 years check the joints for play.

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