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post #18706 of 116619 Old 04-20-2009, 08:42 PM
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post #18707 of 116619 Old 04-20-2009, 08:47 PM
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Drove it for the first time in 3 days. The Jeep was feeling neglected I'm sure. I will defend this neglect by mentioning that we were out of town.

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post #18709 of 116619 Old 04-20-2009, 09:05 PM
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It was low on fluid and slipping a little bit. No more slipping after topping off.
How would that help eliminate slipping? The hydraulic clutch is just an assist to make pushing the clutch easier. How would this affect the gripping of the clutch itself because the throwout bearing and spring (don't know the technical word) is what provides the grip? The hydraulic assist only assists in pushing IN the clutch which takes the tension OFF the clutch...

Seems to me like saying "I changed the diff fluid and now my tires grip the road better"...
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How would that help eliminate slipping? The hydraulic clutch is just an assist to make pushing the clutch easier. How would this affect the gripping of the clutch?

Seems to me like saying "I changed the diff fluid and now my tires grip the road better"...
There wasn't enough fluid in the system to fully engage the clutch causing it to slip. Hydraulics.


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Thanks for the info. Seems like you will lose some flex but then again I think most of our flex comes from the front anyway. But all the buggies us 4 links so seem like it is better. Of course I guess they are also running coilovers or air shocks.
Yeah, flex isn't everything, I've got lockers F/R so I'm not terribly concerned about having an RTI ramp monster.

FWIW I bolted my axle up to the springs tonight so see where the Jeep sits, just straight up and straight down it's got about 9-11" of droop from ride I'm pretty sure flex will be more than enough

Leaf springs suck when they're not set up correctly Otherwise a great leaf suspension can easily outperform a poorly thought-out 4-link.

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post #18712 of 116619 Old 04-20-2009, 09:36 PM
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There wasn't enough fluid in the system to fully engage the clutch causing it to slip. Hydraulics.
...well the clutch fork, clutch, throwout bearings and everything on the Jeep itself is identical to a manual clutch, the only difference being there's a master and slave cylinder going to the clutch fork, and not a cable. The slave cylinder doesn't do anything to engage the clutch, it just disengages the clutch when it puts pressure on the throwout bearing, which is spring loaded in order to engage the clutch. This is why the tranny turns in neutral with the clutch out...

I found this link. Shows you what I'm talking about...



Anyways, whatever... are you runnin 37's? Your Jeep looks sick!
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post #18713 of 116619 Old 04-20-2009, 09:43 PM
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There wasn't enough fluid in the system to fully engage the clutch causing it to slip. Hydraulics.
The hydraulic clutch slave cylinder only disengages the clutch, instead of having linkage. The spring pack on the clutch keeps the clutch engaged on the flywheel. If you are having slippage issues, your clutch disc or clutch spring pack is shot, or something is preventing the clutch from fully engaging, (like mud behind the clutch pack), or something like grease of oil got in on the flywheel or clutch.

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OK,,,,,so after I filled the reservoir back up why is my clutch not slipping anymore? Coincidence? Any explanation for this?


And no,,,,I'm running 35's.

Either way it isn't slipping like it was before, and I still need to re-gear.


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The hydraulic clutch slave cylinder only disengages the clutch, instead of having linkage. The spring pack on the clutch keeps the clutch engaged on the flywheel. If you are having slippage issues, your clutch disc or clutch spring pack is shot, or something is preventing the clutch from fully engaging, (like mud behind the clutch pack), or something like grease of oil got in on the flywheel or clutch.
Exactly! I posted a few pictures two posts back that show the clutch.

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OK,,,,,so after I filled the reservoir back up why is my clutch not slipping anymore? Coincidence? Any explanation for this?


And no,,,,I'm running 35's.

Either way it isn't slipping like it was before, and I still need to re-gear.
Or maybe that wasn't the problem. Maybe coincidence, but fluid won't fix a slipping clutch. That's why I made the joke "changing the diff fluid makes my tires grip better"... They're not related...

Either way, glad it's fixed!
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I put on my mirror relocation brackets today after werk now I'm topless doorless and legal this is the first time on anyjeep I've ever owned I bothered with mirror brackets and I gotta say they make sense plus when I hit the trail 2 hex bolts per side and voila no more mirrors :-) yay
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OK,,,,,so after I filled the reservoir back up why is my clutch not slipping anymore? Coincidence?
Did you wash you jeep and clean out whatever was in your clutch? I don't know. I just know that filling your clutch reservoir has nothing to do with clutch slipage.

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Made a tire bump so it will prevent the tire from shaking.



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Did you wash you jeep and clean out whatever was in your clutch? I don't know. I just know that filling your clutch reservoir has nothing to do with clutch slipage.
Nope,,,,didn't wash anything. It has been slipping and progressively getting worse over the last couple of months. The only thing that I did to the Jeep today besides put gas in it was top off the reservoir.


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There's gotta be another reason, you can rip off the clutch slave cylinder entirely and it won't slip. When there is a leak in the clutch system you won't be able to get it into gear because the clutch doesn't disengage.

Temperature, humidity, etc could have something to do with the slipping. I haven't even looked under my own Jeep, but if the clutch pedal is adjustable, perhaps the clutch master is already partially depressed taking some tension off the clutch leading to slipping?

edit: and UPSucks, check your PMs.

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