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post #1 of 28 Old 11-19-2019, 02:36 PM Thread Starter
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Vanco big brake kit questions

I wish to install a vanco big break kit on my LJ with 35 inch tires on 17 inch rims.

Mr Blaine recommended that I install the super 16 kit instead of the 17 inch kit.

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1. Do you agree that the 17 inch kit would not be the best if one does not consider price? Why? Can you have too much braking?

2. The super 16 kit includes a larger master cylinder. (The 17 doesnít) Do I need to install a larger master cylinder?
Why, If the 17 inch kit doesnít?

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post #2 of 28 Old 11-19-2019, 03:10 PM
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Blaine knows more about Jeep brakes that anyone, I would take his advice without question.
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I wish to install a vanco big break kit on my LJ with 35 inch tires on 17 inch rims.

Mr Blaine recommended that I install the super 16 kit instead of the 17 inch kit.

Questions:

1. Do you agree that the 17 inch kit would not be the best if one does not consider price? Why? Can you have too much braking?

2. The super 16 kit includes a larger master cylinder. (The 17 doesnít) Do I need to install a larger master cylinder?
Why, If the 17 inch kit doesnít?

Thank you
Blaine is the designer of that kit and the absolute guru of all things Jeep brake related. Absolutely go with his recommendations.

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Reminds me of Seinfeld.

"No soup for you!"


Joking aside, Blaine is the man, you can go to the bank with his recommendations.
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Ok, Ok, (BTW, I never doubted the guru)

Iíll order what he recommends, the super 16.

But could someone please explain why?
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I'm guessing the 17" kit may not clear all 17" wheels depending on their construction and backspacing. My dual position 15/16" Vanco combo kit barely clears my 15" Walker Evans beadlocks.

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Mr Blaine recommended that I install the super 16 kit instead of the 17 inch kit.
No questions needed.

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Canít we just talk about it? Knowing why things are done is part if the purpose of a forum, right? Asking why something is done or how things work is not a criticism of mr. Blaine in any way. Canít we all agree on that?
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I donít see a dual position 15/16" Vanco combo kit? What is that? I presume that a 15 inch kit can fit on 15 and larger rims. Fair? I presume that a 16 inch kit will not fit on a 15 inch rim. Fair?
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Btw, if I was closer to Blaineís shop I would not hesitate to bring my Jeep there and have him do the install. I would prefer that even though I believe I can do it myself, but Iím too far away to do that. His reputation is spotless.
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Canít we just talk about it? Knowing why things are done is part if the purpose of a forum, right? Asking why something is done or how things work is not a criticism of mr. Blaine in any way. Canít we all agree on that?
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I don’t see a dual position 15/16" Vanco combo kit? What is that? I presume that a 15 inch kit can fit on 15 and larger rims. Fair? I presume that a 16 inch kit will not fit on a 15 inch rim. Fair?

I have 15" wheels and the original 44mm calipers on the modified knuckles. When I decided to replace Blaine had me upgrade to the 46mm calipers. They aren't mounted yet I want to paint them.

The brakes are cash. Even the 44mm calipers with his pads (probably without) work great. My jeep with its savvy suspension and Blaines brakes handles great. Stops like a sports car. A heavy brick shaped sports car.

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I suggest you ask Blaine and report back.
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post #13 of 28 Old 11-20-2019, 04:10 PM
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I don’t see a dual position 15/16" Vanco combo kit? What is that? I presume that a 15 inch kit can fit on 15 and larger rims. Fair? I presume that a 16 inch kit will not fit on a 15 inch rim. Fair?
The knuckles gave the ability to mount the calipers in the correct position for 15" or 16" wheels. I don't know that Blaine still uses knuckles like these that give the dual position option but they're what was in my early kit. The bottom of the knuckles are where the two possible 15 vs. 16" positions are for the caliper mounting bolts.
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The knuckles gave the ability to mount the calipers in the correct position for 15" or 16" wheels. I don't know that Blaine still uses knuckles like these that give the dual position option but they're what was in my early kit.
Another question for Blaine.

At the end of the day, OP should just pony up and get the kit.

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I donít see a dual position 15/16" Vanco combo kit? What is that? I presume that a 15 inch kit can fit on 15 and larger rims. Fair? I presume that a 16 inch kit will not fit on a 15 inch rim. Fair?
I've got the 15/16 kit. There are two over-lapped holes that will allow you to use either 15 or 16 inch rotors, depending on wheel inside diameters. Not all wheels are equal.

I actually had to change wheels because the 15" wheels that I had didn't clear the calipers, using the 15" rotor.

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