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post #1 of 10 Old 03-19-2020, 12:16 PM Thread Starter
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TJ not starting

I have an ‘06 TJ 4.0L...it’s running great but won’t start...last week I turned my key backwards for the radio while filling up...it now does not start...the key turns on accessories, unlocks the wheel, but won’t turn far enough to start...I strongly believe it is the actuator pin...I was pricing the fix at techs in my area...the dealership says I need a whole new steering column and the answers I keep getting vary from there...does an ‘06 need the steering column swapped out to fix an actuator pin? The switch is getting power but the starter is not. TIA

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post #2 of 10 Old 03-19-2020, 12:41 PM
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before spending I would diagnose and not guess at the fix.

So you have a 06 wrangler, and a no start.
Is this an auto or manual trans?
When key moved to START is there 12v at starter relay #3 and is #5 ground?
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When I see the quality of aftermarket I think OEM.
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There is power going to the switch but no power to the starter. I had a dealership diagnose the pin is broken, but they only repair it by replacing the whole steering column.
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Well if the jeep dealer said-
don't get a second opinion, don't try anything, no matter how easy, give up and sell the jeep.

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When I see the quality of aftermarket I think OEM.
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post #5 of 10 Old 03-19-2020, 02:18 PM
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You don't need to replace the entire column to fix a broken ignition actuator. The video below has a decent walkthrough of the process.
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post #6 of 10 Old 03-19-2020, 05:09 PM
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The reason Jeep have to replace the steering column is that they don't sell the actuator pin separately. Buy the dorman actuator pin from the vendor of your choice and replace it yourself following the video linked above.


I had a slight problem with mine as the end of the pin wouldn't fully insert into the ignition switch. I'll find the post I made about the issue and add a link in case you come across the issue yourself.


Edit: can't find the post, I'll have to see if I can find pics.
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I saw the doorman pin online. The NAPA near me has one in stock. I don’t know if it is from doorman. Would there be a difference?
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There probably won't be a difference other than the box the part comes in.

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post #9 of 10 Old 03-21-2020, 03:11 AM
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Here's the pics I took. I forget what actual issue this caused. I think it might have been something to do with key-in chimes or switch operation rather than steering lock. It's just something to watch for when fitting a new actuator pin. Pics are taken with the key in I think.

There is a tab on the actuator pin shaft which should be level with the steering lock mechanism. You can see the misaligned shaft circled orange, with the ignition switch in place.

The next pic shows the correct position it should sit in, which was taken with the switch removed.

The problem was cased by the shaft of the actuator pin not fully inserting into the ignition switch. To ensure it would seat fully I stripped the actor pin assembly apart and beveled the end of the shaft to allow full insertion into the switch. Be careful of the springs when taking this apart.

I removed the plastic rod to prevent damage to it when I beveled the end of the shaft. With that done the actuator was reassembled and everything refitted to the Jeep with whatever the issue was rectified.
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Great info, Johnny.

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